Ari cell base research 2010

[celt]

» At least they’ve passed the stage of working on Mice it’s actually being
» tested on humans in the uS
» not some third world country

I take it you are refering to singapore as the 3rd wold country? one of the worlds leading financial centres and the most globalised country in the world. Get your elitist head out of your ass and realise that important things happen outside of the US or the uS as you call it. America is a great country and there are other great countries out there also. You have no right to come on here and bash other nations simply because they are not America. Its ignorant and disrespectful.

[baldlatino34]

I agree to you 100% rev.

[soitchy]

I understand that the treated area is still thin compared to nonbalding areas, but does each individual hair feel terminal and strong? Or are all the new hairs thin and weak relative to a hair on the back of your head for example?

Thanks for posting here!

[jim73]

thanks for the post thomas.
I wanted to ask this question for a while, how long is the Hair after 9 months? (mm, cm, or is it super long)
Thnaks in advance.

[thomas_tank]

» thanks for the post thomas.
» I wanted to ask this question for a while, how long is the Hair after 9
» months? (mm, cm, or is it super long)
» Thnaks in advance.

when i go in for my scheduled photos, the researchers shave the area so that it’s easier to count the hairs. so 6 weeks is the longest period i’ve have. remember this is hair at the top and rear of my head, so it’s not easy to count or measure individual hair strands. sure friends and family know but we don’t have conversations or view-ins about it.

my guess would be it would continue to grow if i didn’t have it cut. since that area is shaved and has 5 tatoos, i generally wear a cap all the time because i don’t shave the rest of my head.

[thomas_tank]

» I understand that the treated area is still thin compared to nonbalding
» areas, but does each individual hair feel terminal and strong? Or are all
» the new hairs thin and weak relative to a hair on the back of your head for
» example?
»
» Thanks for posting here!

it’s really hard to judge something i can’t easily see and touch. sorry

[thomas_tank]

» » » thanks again.
» » » it has been reported (by Shooter)that ARI will place 10 injections
» per
» » » cm2
» » » on the newest trialists.
» » » This is 65 injections per inch2, or 8x8 injections per sq inch
» » »
» » » Do you think this applies to you too?
» » »
» » » what is your guess-timation on how many new hairs have you grown in
» the
» » » best of those 5 areas (1 inch x 1 inch)?
» »
» » the day of the injections, i was given a shot to numb my scalp. by the
» end
» » of the day i felt like a pin cushion. if my memory serves me correctly
» » there were two different formulations used. so the 1st one was done in
» the
» » morning then later in the day the 2nd formulation was injected.
» »
» » i really didnot pay attention as to many injections. to make a guess
» maybe
» » ten per site. my goal was to just stay relaxed.
» »
» » not being a researcher i don’t have a clue how many hairs have grown.
» it
» » looks like an area of thin hair. while it looks better than nothing.
» one
» » would need several treatments to get enough thickness to be satisfied.
» if
» » one could continue to get injections you could probably get a scalp full
» of
» » hair. if money is no object, then those who could afford it could get
» » enough injections. the guess for the future is how long will these
» » injections last?»
» » »
» » »
» » » » » Hello Thomas. Thanks for posting.
» » » » » Good to know that you are not using Minoxidil.
» » » » » This would mean that there is still a group of people who is
» using
» » » pure
» » » » » cell treatment.
» » » » »
» » » » » How bald is the injected area?
» » » » » How wide is the injected area?
» » » » » When were you injected?
» » » » »
» » » » » » as a trial client, i can only speak for myself. i have not been
» » » told
» » » » to
» » » » » add
» » » » » » any enhancers to my scalp or oral products. i would probably
» say
» » » yes,
» » » » » there
» » » » » » is added hair. at this point, the hair is thin,not an amount
» that
» » » » would
» » » » » be
» » » » » » satisfactory but it is a start.
» » » »
» » » » ari wanted subjects who were bald towards the rear of the head. i
» was
» » » thin
» » » » to the point of baldness. they placed tatoos the size of a pencil
» » head
» » » in 5
» » » » locations spaced apart. so the injections were placed around these
» » » markers.
» » » » so each area is about an inch. it’s been about 9 months since the
» » » » injections.
»
» Thanks for the information Thomas Tank. I would like to ask you a
» hypothetical question and hopefully you could give me an educated guess.
» Even though I am sure you aren’t 100% positive, as you probably don’t know
» enough yourself about ARI’s technology. Your experience being a test
» subject makes you the best person to ask.
»
» From what you do know, do you think ARI’s technology will work for
» eyebrows? THX! Any info would surely help.

i don’t see why this technology wouldn’t work on eyebrows. the bigger question is whether the hair can behave or look unruly. bosley already offers ht for eyebrows.

[Spanish_Dude]

» » I understand that the treated area is still thin compared to nonbalding
» » areas, but does each individual hair feel terminal and strong? Or are
» all
» » the new hairs thin and weak relative to a hair on the back of your head
» for
» » example?
» »
» » Thanks for posting here!
»
» it’s really hard to judge something i can’t easily see and touch. sorry

but Thomas, each time they shave your hair to take photos, have you tried to look at the area using 2 mirrors (one hand mirror and a wall mirror)? What do you see around the tatoos?
-Do you see a gain of number of hairs?
-are the new hairs of good caliber, well pigmented, with correct directions?

thanks again

[Virgo]

» » » » thanks again.
» » » » it has been reported (by Shooter)that ARI will place 10 injections
» » per
» » » » cm2
» » » » on the newest trialists.
» » » » This is 65 injections per inch2, or 8x8 injections per sq inch
» » » »
» » » » Do you think this applies to you too?
» » » »
» » » » what is your guess-timation on how many new hairs have you grown in
» » the
» » » » best of those 5 areas (1 inch x 1 inch)?
» » »
» » » the day of the injections, i was given a shot to numb my scalp. by
» the
» » end
» » » of the day i felt like a pin cushion. if my memory serves me
» correctly
» » » there were two different formulations used. so the 1st one was done
» in
» » the
» » » morning then later in the day the 2nd formulation was injected.
» » »
» » » i really didnot pay attention as to many injections. to make a guess
» » maybe
» » » ten per site. my goal was to just stay relaxed.
» » »
» » » not being a researcher i don’t have a clue how many hairs have grown.
» » it
» » » looks like an area of thin hair. while it looks better than nothing.
» » one
» » » would need several treatments to get enough thickness to be
» satisfied.
» » if
» » » one could continue to get injections you could probably get a scalp
» full
» » of
» » » hair. if money is no object, then those who could afford it could get
» » » enough injections. the guess for the future is how long will these
» » » injections last?»
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » » » Hello Thomas. Thanks for posting.
» » » » » » Good to know that you are not using Minoxidil.
» » » » » » This would mean that there is still a group of people who is
» » using
» » » » pure
» » » » » » cell treatment.
» » » » » »
» » » » » » How bald is the injected area?
» » » » » » How wide is the injected area?
» » » » » » When were you injected?
» » » » » »
» » » » » » » as a trial client, i can only speak for myself. i have not
» been
» » » » told
» » » » » to
» » » » » » add
» » » » » » » any enhancers to my scalp or oral products. i would probably
» » say
» » » » yes,
» » » » » » there
» » » » » » » is added hair. at this point, the hair is thin,not an amount
» » that
» » » » » would
» » » » » » be
» » » » » » » satisfactory but it is a start.
» » » » »
» » » » » ari wanted subjects who were bald towards the rear of the head. i
» » was
» » » » thin
» » » » » to the point of baldness. they placed tatoos the size of a pencil
» » » head
» » » » in 5
» » » » » locations spaced apart. so the injections were placed around
» these
» » » » markers.
» » » » » so each area is about an inch. it’s been about 9 months since the
» » » » » injections.
» »
» » Thanks for the information Thomas Tank. I would like to ask you a
» » hypothetical question and hopefully you could give me an educated
» guess.
» » Even though I am sure you aren’t 100% positive, as you probably don’t
» know
» » enough yourself about ARI’s technology. Your experience being a test
» » subject makes you the best person to ask.
» »
» » From what you do know, do you think ARI’s technology will work for
» » eyebrows? THX! Any info would surely help.
»
» i don’t see why this technology wouldn’t work on eyebrows. the bigger
» question is whether the hair can behave or look unruly. bosley already
» offers ht for eyebrows.

I am most grateful for your response, Thomas Tank. Any insight on the matter does mean great deal to me, especially coming from a person who has some first hand experience with this treatment. I shall hope they eventually perfect this to look more cosmetically natural for other forms of hair loss.

Thank you, very much.

[Truthtales]

thomas thanx for sharing mate. I want to ask you a couple of things as well

1. do you know the trial desingn. case series or randomized. Meaning, is there a placebo goup in these trials. People who do not receive actual injections of the therapy while others are?Or everyone undergoes therapy like in case series trials

2. do you know at which trial phase you are in A or B or is it combined?

Phase IIA is specifically designed to assess dosing requirements (how much drug should be given).
Phase IIB is specifically designed to study efficacy (how well the drug works at the prescribed dose(s)).

3. Have you seen or talked with other people who participate in the trials?

4. How did you got in?You did ot for the money or you were desperate about hair as most of us? you sound a bit dissapointed or uncaring about this whole thing i dont know if i am right

[thomas_tank]

» » » I understand that the treated area is still thin compared to
» nonbalding
» » » areas, but does each individual hair feel terminal and strong? Or
» are
» » all
» » » the new hairs thin and weak relative to a hair on the back of your
» head
» » for
» » » example?
» » »
» » » Thanks for posting here!
» »
» » it’s really hard to judge something i can’t easily see and touch. sorry
»
» but Thomas, each time they shave your hair to take photos, have you tried
» to look at the area using 2 mirrors (one hand mirror and a wall mirror)?
» What do you see around the tatoos?
» -Do you see a gain of number of hairs?
» -are the new hairs of good caliber, well pigmented, with correct
» directions?

yes, i have looked in the mirror before they shave my scalp. the hair looks quite normal(appears in correct direction) i had dreams wondering if it would look like corn stalks (straight up and in tight bunches) good caliber/well pigmented difficult to really judge because it’s not dense. i can say it’s not very fine or very light color. looks normal just not thick the way you would like to see it. with more experience, maybe they will be able to fine tune the technique. at least it doesn’t have the mega hair plugs look of the past.
» thanks again

[thomas_tank]

» thomas thanx for sharing mate. I want to ask you a couple of things as well
»
»
»
» 1. do you know the trial desingn. case series or randomized. Meaning, is
» there a placebo goup in these trials. People who do not receive actual
» injections of the therapy while others are?Or everyone undergoes therapy
» like in case series trials
»
»
»
»
» 2. do you know at which trial phase you are in A or B or is it combined?
»
» Phase IIA is specifically designed to assess dosing requirements (how much
» drug should be given).
» Phase IIB is specifically designed to study efficacy (how well the drug
» works at the prescribed dose(s)).
»
» 1. in my case there are 5 tatoos, one was left untouched for comparison.
2. their focus was on the angle of the syringe and the depth of injection.
3.
» 3. Have you seen or talked with other people who participate in the
» trials?
» 3. i think they prefer that we not see other participants.
» 4. How did you got in?You did ot for the money or you were desperate about
» hair as most of us? you sound a bit dissapointed or uncaring about this
» whole thing i dont know if i am right
4. i have been involved in other medical clinical trials. so i do this because i care how research can help the public. sure i would love to have thick hair growing, but i don’t. if i didn’t care then i won’t be sharing my experience with the world. we are looking for answers and the truth. so we can make decisions how to deal with our hair issues.

[Spanish_Dude]

» yes, i have looked in the mirror before they shave my scalp. the hair

I think its better to take a look after they shave your scalp. You will perfectly see each individual hair.

» looks quite normal(appears in correct direction) i had dreams wondering if
» it would look like corn stalks (straight up and in tight bunches) good
» caliber/well pigmented difficult to really judge because it’s not dense. i
» can say it’s not very fine or very light color. looks normal just not thick
» the way you would like to see it. with more experience, maybe they will be
» able to fine tune the technique. at least it doesn’t have the mega hair
» plugs look of the past.

have you seen any difference between the 5 test areas? which area got the most regrowth?

[Spanish_Dude]

» 1. do you know the trial desingn. case series or randomized. Meaning, is
» there a placebo goup in these trials. People who do not receive actual
» injections of the therapy while others are?Or everyone undergoes therapy
» like in case series trials

posted by ZZ on xconomy:

ZZ
8/10/10 11:19 am

I just spoke to another one of the trial centers and here is what I found out:

1. There are no placebos. Everyone gets a real treatment.
   <<<

[Spanish_Dude]

» » 1. in my case there are 5 tatoos, one was left untouched for
» comparison.
» 2. their focus was on the angle of the syringe and the depth of
» injection.

This is getting interesting. Do you think the angle of the syringe was carefully selected to be the same as the angle of the hair in the area?
If this is the case, this smells like neogenesis. Rejuvenation wouldn’t need any special angles for the injections.