Aderans Update* December 14, 2010

» » As for the fact that we haven’t seen regrowth from anything so far, I
» » think that just demonstrates that we shouldn’t hope for any
» » substance/method that’s not artificially manmade and recent. If there
» was
» » a natural way to help us then mankind would have stumbled onto it by
» now.
»
» » i disagree… histogen shows promising regrowth results.
»
» We don’t really disagree. Histogen falls under what I would call
» “unnatural” substances & methods.
»
»
» IMO nothing that was theoretically available to mankind 100 years ago is
» going to work. Probably nothing available even 20-30 years ago. The cure
» may perfectly well be around the corner right now, but in that case it
» probably wasn’t possible until recently.

ok… i hadn’t read your post properly… so yea… thats probably true.

» IMO nothing that was theoretically available to mankind 100 years ago is
» going to work. Probably nothing available even 20-30 years ago. The cure
» may perfectly well be around the corner right now, but in that case it
» probably wasn’t possible until recently.

Wait wait wait - what do you mean?
Does that mean no full head of hair for Iron Man in the comming days??

I always thought that ARI

  • is working on a “cure” since more than 8 years (besides the fact, that their researchers already brought in years of hair research);
  • has the best team of hair hair researchers on this planet;
  • is backed-up with millions of dollars for research & trails;

So where is the hair loss “cure” :confused:

Where is the problem??

Where is their so-called “room for ANY improvement” ?

A Hair Multiplication operation is about to miss a previous deadline. Stop the presses.

» A Hair Multiplication operation is about to miss a previous deadline. Stop
» the presses.
Really?

Your comments in this thread do not really fit together with your comments in this thread:

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry-id-76274-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer-descasc-DESC.html

Or did you see some guys walking out of a Bosley clinic with a full head of hair who got a cell-based therapy/procedure?? No?

Or did you see ARI providing any ‘significant’ before/after photos all the years until now? No?

Or did you see in the meanwhile ANY intermediate product from ARI as a result of their first research findings, which at least could represent SOME IMPROVEMENT to hair transplants? No?

In my opinion, ARI perfectly demonstrates, that just to have more researchers as well as money, doesn’t mean that they will be faster, more clever or will succeed at all!

In comparison to just 1 SINGLE MAN (Gho), in my opinion (and this is just a personal opinion) the ARI guys look like little idiots. This is JUST my opinion. And that’s just what I tried to demonstrate in this thread.

» » … hair regeneration is headed in the
» » right direction,” said Vern Liebmann, Vice President Operations. “The
» fact
» » that an increase in hair growth is apparent as far out as one year after
» » treatment indicates our process has staying power. Nobody
» we know of has

» » produced results like these.
» ----------------------------------------------------------
» It seems you do not (want to?) know a lot, Mr. Liebmann …
»
» Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
»
» IN SHORT:
» The study — conducted by Marwa Fawzi, a dermatologist at the University of
» Cairo Faculty of Medicine, used stem cells from the scalps of eight
» children with alopecia areata to regenerate their own hair:
»
» The Cairo researcher took small amounts of skin from the scalps of the
» children,
»
» - isolated the hair follicle stem cells that stimulate hair
» production, and
» - grew them in the lab,
» - increasing the number of cells.
»
» After one month, she put the cells back into the scalps of the children,
» with numerous injections across the bald areas of their heads.
»
» Six months after the hair cloning treatment, an evaluation showed
»
» - a 50% increase in hair in more than half of the
» subjects
.
»
» Dr. Fawzi took new skin samples and examined the hair follicles
» themselves and could see that the
»
» - injected stem cells had migrated into the
» follicles
. There, the stem cells stimulated the follicles to
» transition from a dormant phase to a hair-generating phase.
»
» So, that means, if somebody don’t have any “dormant” hair follicles in the
» scalp anymore = no hairs … :expressionless:

AUTOLOGOUS PROGENITOR CELL IMPLANTATION
AS NOVEL THERAPEUTIC INTERVENTION FOR
ALOPECIA AREATA

Fawzi, Marwa M.
Dermatology, Cairo University, Cairo, Egypt

Background: Alopecia areata (AA) is a T-cell mediated autoimmune disease
resulting in partial or total nonscarring hair loss. There is no satisfactory
treatment available till this time.

Objective: We tried to navigate a new therapeutic
option using follicular stem cells to treat alopecia areata.

Methods: Eight patients were included. Each underwent scalp biopsy, the biopsy
was cut into small pieces and the lower third of the hair follicle and hair
digested in trypsin-EDTA. Single cell suspension was prepared. The expression
of S100 was used as a marker of follicular stem cells. Cells were suspended
in 1ml sterile saline and injected intradermal in multiple sites of the affected
scalp of included patients.

Results: Degree of response was measured as follows:
Excellent response >50%, good<50% -10%, poor<10%, excellent
response was achieved in five patients(62.5%), good response was achieved
in two patients(25%),while one patient (12.5%) who achieved poor response
at the end of 6 months evaluation. One patient developed new lesions at the
end of 6 months follow up period.

Conclusion: This is the first open-label pilot study
demonstrating the feasibility, efficacy and short-term safety of local
follicular stem cell therapy for alopecia areata.

Your comments in this thread do not really fit together with your comments in this thread:

How so?

I don’t think the practical answer to our hair loss problems is ever coming from Dr Gho. And I don’t think any HM operation missing a deadline is very shocking news. Get over it.

»
» How so?
»
» I don’t think the practical answer to our hair loss problems is ever coming
» from Dr Gho. And I don’t think any HM operation missing a deadline is very
» shocking news. Get over it.

Exactly, I really don’t get why you need to constantly take every topic back to Gho Ironman. He’s no closer to bringing a mass marketable option than any of the companies you don’t seem to have much time for.

I like a lot of the research you bring to the board Ironman, but you need to stop with the Gho fetish, he’s not now or ever likely to be the answer to our problems.

It’s really simple, the majority of men can’t afford hair transplants, no amount of reworking of the process and saying we now use a matrix with them is going to change the fact that it’s far too expensive, we need a radical change to a next generation treatment that will be accessible to the majority of people that are being missed by the quite frankly pathetic options available now. At what point do you expect Gho to be able to offer that kind of treatment? you know very well that he won’t, so why do you go on and on about him.

The problems with forums like this is we’re in a kind of bubble, most of the companies and potential treatments we get excited over mean nothing to the general public, they won’t give a damn about whether Gho, Follica, Trichoscience, Aderans or Histogen come out with a treatment, they will only care when real results are being shown on a lot of people for a reasonable price.