Aderans Research Expands Clinical Studies

» » I agree with Cal on this one. Keep in mind that all of the Aderans
» » representatives cited in this press release indicated that the process
» DOES
» » work to some extent. They specifically said that this move represents
» » confidence in their early results.
» »
» » The extension of Phase 2 COULD be a bad thing, but Phase 3 is so
» expensive
» » that I’ll bet they want to get every kink figured out before they move
» » forward. We just need to hope that they CAN figure out the kinks.
»
» Is your kink-story
»
» - just a hypothesis or
» - just a claim or
» - just a assumption or
» - just a speculation ?
»
» Or COULD it simply be just CRAP?7

You have a very bad grasp of the English language. Your attempts of witty insults most of the time don’t make any sense. I can’t understand what you’re talking about most of the time. I’m starting to think your antagonism is due to things being lost in translation.

You can combine Phase 2 and Phase 3 ie if you have some good results you can use the patients to take them into phase 3 and if you have some minor increasing in hair density etc you can take those patients and try to change their procedure ( but they are still in Phase 2 while the others are in Phase 3)

I say lets wait until June/July to hear more

» You can combine Phase 2 and Phase 3 ie if you have some good results you
» can use the patients to take them into phase 3 and if you have some minor
» increasing in hair density etc you can take those patients and try to
» change their procedure ( but they are still in Phase 2 while the others are
» in Phase 3)
»
» I say lets wait until June/July to hear more

hmmm, I wonder if this is what others are doing also. Very interesting you bring that up.

» You can combine Phase 2 and Phase 3 ie if you have some good results you
» can use the patients to take them into phase 3 and if you have some minor
» increasing in hair density etc you can take those patients and try to
» change their procedure ( but they are still in Phase 2 while the others are
» in Phase 3)
»
» I say lets wait until June/July to hear more

Very good news in my opinion, they would not expand the trial if they are not optimistic about the outcome, very encouraging signs.

» » You can combine Phase 2 and Phase 3 ie if you have some good results you
» » can use the patients to take them into phase 3 and if you have some
» minor
» » increasing in hair density etc you can take those patients and try to
» » change their procedure ( but they are still in Phase 2 while the others
» are
» » in Phase 3)
» »
» » I say lets wait until June/July to hear more
»
» Very good news in my opinion, they would not expand the trial if they are
» not optimistic about the outcome, very encouraging signs.

why do people still think its a phase II + III combined?

Also is it possible that Adreans might talk about something else at the confrence not listed in the abstract?

» » » You can combine Phase 2 and Phase 3 ie if you have some good results
» you
» » » can use the patients to take them into phase 3 and if you have some
» » minor
» » » increasing in hair density etc you can take those patients and try to
» » » change their procedure ( but they are still in Phase 2 while the
» others
» » are
» » » in Phase 3)
» » »
» » » I say lets wait until June/July to hear more
» »
» » Very good news in my opinion, they would not expand the trial if they
» are
» » not optimistic about the outcome, very encouraging signs.
»
» why do people still think its a phase II + III combined?
»
» Also is it possible that Adreans might talk about something else at the
» confrence not listed in the abstract?

Because they said there officialy in Phase 2, whatever this means. But the patients with advanced growth could be in Phase 3 because eacht Hairloss pattern is individual, so they can see which treatment will work best for some cases.

So everybody is just criticizing iron man’s theory. I don’t fully believe it myself, but i must admit i do think it’s plausible.

Instead of criticizing why don’t you people give us your own explanations on this matter? Because there’s clearly something unusual. Oh…and if anyone is about to say “it’s not unusual” I beg them to give examples of similar situations.

» So everybody is just criticizing iron man’s theory. I don’t fully believe
» it myself, but i must admit i do think it’s plausible.
»
» Instead of criticizing why don’t you people give us your own explanations
» on this matter? Because there’s clearly something unusual. Oh…and if
» anyone is about to say “it’s not unusual” I beg them to give examples of
» similar situations.

If they were in phase II/III why havent they told us? They have been pretty good for keeping us in the know.

» So everybody is just criticizing iron man’s theory. I don’t fully believe
» it myself, but i must admit i do think it’s plausible.
»
» Instead of criticizing why don’t you people give us your own explanations
» on this matter? Because there’s clearly something unusual. Oh…and if
» anyone is about to say “it’s not unusual” I beg them to give examples of
» similar situations.

“We’ve received some encouraging results from our initial Phase 2 studies and we’re eager to expand the trial, add new protocols, and refine our knowledge of the hair multiplication and regeneration process.”
I think this is a logical enough explanation.

» » So everybody is just criticizing iron man’s theory. I don’t fully
» believe
» » it myself, but i must admit i do think it’s plausible.
» »
» » Instead of criticizing why don’t you people give us your own
» explanations
» » on this matter? Because there’s clearly something unusual. Oh…and if
» » anyone is about to say “it’s not unusual” I beg them to give examples
» of
» » similar situations.
»
» “We’ve received some encouraging results from our initial Phase 2 studies
» and we’re eager to expand the trial, add new protocols, and refine our
» knowledge of the [1.] hair multiplication and [2.] regeneration process.”
» I think this is a logical enough explanation.

The colored words are the only “logical” information, I can read in this new press release - which is actually just written by Aderans itself. And if somebody is writing something for himself (like politicians), they just write things, which they wish the public should know - or believe

Anyway, everything is right on track.

» » » So everybody is just criticizing iron man’s theory. I don’t fully
» » believe
» » » it myself, but i must admit i do think it’s plausible.
» » »
» » » Instead of criticizing why don’t you people give us your own
» » explanations
» » » on this matter? Because there’s clearly something unusual. Oh…and
» if
» » » anyone is about to say “it’s not unusual” I beg them to give examples
» » of
» » » similar situations.
» »
» » “We’ve received some encouraging results from our initial Phase 2
» studies
» » and we’re eager to expand the trial, add new protocols, and refine our
» » knowledge of the [1.] hair multiplication
» and [2.] regeneration process.”
» » I think this is a logical enough explanation.
»
» The colored words are the only “logical” information, I can read in this
» new press release - which is actually just written by Aderans itself. And
» if somebody is writing something for himself (like politicians), they just
» write things, which they wish the public should know - or believe
» …
»
» Anyway, everything is right on track.

They’re privately funded. They have no reason to mislead.

» » » So everybody is just criticizing iron man’s theory. I don’t fully
» » believe
» » » it myself, but i must admit i do think it’s plausible.
» » »
» » » Instead of criticizing why don’t you people give us your own
» » explanations
» » » on this matter? Because there’s clearly something unusual. Oh…and
» if
» » » anyone is about to say “it’s not unusual” I beg them to give examples
» » of
» » » similar situations.
» »
» » “We’ve received some encouraging results from our initial Phase 2
» studies
» » and we’re eager to expand the trial, add new protocols, and refine our
» » knowledge of the [1.] hair multiplication
» and [2.] regeneration process.”
» » I think this is a logical enough explanation.
»
» The colored words are the only “logical” information, I can read in this
» new press release - which is actually just written by Aderans itself. And
» if somebody is writing something for himself (like politicians), they just
» write things, which they wish the public should know - or believe
» …
»
» Anyway, everything is right on track.

at least Iron Man is one of the few who use references of what they say
his claims are odd, but at the same time plausible, if we take into consideration the cruel competition in HM field, Moving in stealth and giving just a small ammount of infos to the public, when the prize for the winner will be zilions…does not seem to be very odd.i can not find any reason why ARI would admit a II+III trial. as far as i know they are not looking for fundings.their opponent is time for the time being.But i will follow cal this time, there is alot of smoke around…

Aderans is still in Phase 2 because moving to Phase 3 is extremely costly. If the protocol is not perfectly consistent, there is no reason to add 1,000+ patients to the trial.

This is far more plausible than a stealthy attempt to mislead the public and confuse non-existent competitors. Plus, only adding 100 more patients would make for a very small Phase 3.

On another note, I am primarily encouraged by Dr. Stenn’s comment. “Steady” confirmation is akin to “regular” confirmation or “consistent” confirmation. That sounds really, really good.

fingers crossed

» Aderans is still in Phase 2 because moving to Phase 3 is extremely costly.
» If the protocol is not perfectly consistent, there is no reason to add
» 1,000+ patients to the trial.
»
» This is far more plausible than a stealthy attempt to mislead the public
» and confuse non-existent competitors. Plus, only adding 100 more patients
» would make for a very small Phase 3.
»
» On another note, I am primarily encouraged by Dr. Stenn’s comment.
» “Steady” confirmation is akin to “regular” confirmation or “consistent”
» confirmation. That sounds really, really good.
»
» fingers crossed

Ok, but what does “refine our knowledge of the hair multiplication and regeneration process” mean? Refining knowledge…just sounds weird. I admit, English is not my first language, so I’ll let English-native speakers discuss this choice of words.

» Ok, but what does “refine our knowledge of the hair multiplication and
» regeneration process” mean? Refining knowledge…just sounds weird. I
» admit, English is not my first language, so I’ll let English-native
» speakers discuss this choice of words.

“Refining knowledge”?

In connection with “add new protocols” it actually means preparing something for the CLINICAL PRAXIS (full procedure) - which finally means late-trail-phase-approach, which should last about 1 year and depends on the recently added/involved external research companies, regarding how fast they are. So I think “at the end of the first decade” of the 21st century or at the beginning of the new decade, you should be able to get your “full head of hair” back - of course if you’re “Dagobert Duck” (Scrooge McDuck) …

» Aderans is still in Phase 2 because moving to Phase 3 is extremely costly.
» If the protocol is not perfectly consistent, there is no reason to add
» 1,000+ patients to the trial.
»
» This is far more plausible than a stealthy attempt to mislead the public
» and confuse non-existent competitors. Plus, only adding 100 more patients
» would make for a very small Phase 3.
»
» On another note, I am primarily encouraged by Dr. Stenn’s comment.
» “Steady” confirmation is akin to “regular” confirmation or “consistent”
» confirmation. That sounds really, really good.
»
» fingers crossed

alright,
Is there any possibility of gradually adding patiens the next few months? in order to reach the number of 1000+?what do you think?
Is that plausible?
what about the scenario of gradual transition from trial II to III just by adding patiens and refinig further more?

i can smell ‘‘acceleration’’ in the air…Can you?

» alright,
» Is there any possibility of gradually adding patiens the next few months?
» in order to reach the number of 1000+?what do you think?
» Is that plausible?
» what about the scenario of gradual transition from trial II to III just by
» adding patiens and refinig further more?
»
» i can smell ‘‘acceleration’’ in the air…Can you?

No, it it’s NOT plausible.
Why adding thousands of participant - which you would just cost an arm and a leg - if you’re (in this case) NOT forced to do so?

And now I already “can smell” one unplausible crap one after the next …

» » alright,
» » Is there any possibility of gradually adding patiens the next few
» months?
» » in order to reach the number of 1000+?what do you think?
» » Is that plausible?
» » what about the scenario of gradual transition from trial II to III just
» by
» » adding patiens and refinig further more?
» »
» » i can smell ‘‘acceleration’’ in the air…Can you?
»
» No, it it’s NOT plausible.
» Why adding thousands of participant - which you would just cost an arm and
» a leg - if you’re (in this case) NOT forced to do so?
»
» And now I already “can smell” one unplausible crap one after the next

So iron man you think its going to take them 10 more years?

» » Ok, but what does “refine our knowledge of the hair multiplication and
» » regeneration process” mean? Refining knowledge…just sounds weird. I
» » admit, English is not my first language, so I’ll let English-native
» » speakers discuss this choice of words.
»
» “Refining knowledge”?
»
» In connection with “add new protocols” it actually means preparing
» something for the CLINICAL PRAXIS (full procedure) - which finally means
» late-trail-phase-approach, which should last about 1 year and depends on
» the recently added/involved external research companies, regarding how fast
» they are. So I think “at the end of the first decade” of the 21st century
» or at the beginning of the new decade, you should be able to get your “full
» head of hair” back - of course if you’re “Dagobert Duck” (Scrooge McDuck)
» …

That’s waiting too long. I’m sure Histogen can have something sooner than that.

Hmm, it seems people have troubles to understand “decades” in a correct way …


The 21st century is the current century of the Christian Era or Common Era in accordance with the Gregorian calendar. It began on January 1, 2001 and will end on December 31, 2100.

Source: 21st century - Wikipedia

A century consists of 10 decades, whereby 1 decade consists of 10 years.

10 x 10 = 100 = 1 century

A) WHEN (date) ends the 1st decade of the 21st century?
B) WHEN (date) begins the 2nd decade of the 21st century?