Aderans (JP) - Latest Key Developments

» » C and N are mere letters and must not even comply to hair related words.
» » We know nothing about their internal notation. Perhaps they are name
» » abbreviations of the person in charge for each the trail, perhaps it
» has
» » something to do with the location where the trail is taking place, or
» maybe
» » N and C denote the block of the building in which the trails are taking
» » place. But most probably it is something completely different. As said
» » before… speculation on a single letter is simply ridiculous
»

The way it is presented in the PDF doesn’t seems to indicate a place, who would commercialize a product named “Ji Gami NeywYorkChicago” if C and N named places. Nor does it seems to indicate people, Chico and Nikita ? LOL. Most chances are that it is related to different process and evaluation of the product. However, i agree it’s pure speculation.

» » » C and N are mere letters and must not even comply to hair related
» words.
» » » We know nothing about their internal notation. Perhaps they are name
» » » abbreviations of the person in charge for each the trail, perhaps it
» » has
» » » something to do with the location where the trail is taking place, or
» » maybe
» » » N and C denote the block of the building in which the trails are
» taking
» » » place. But most probably it is something completely different. As
» said
» » » before… speculation on a single letter is simply ridiculous
» »
»
» The way it is presented in the PDF doesn’t seems to indicate a place, who
» would commercialize a product named “Ji Gami NeywYorkChicago” if C and N
» named places. Nor does it seems to indicate people, Chico and Nikita ? LOL.
» Most chances are that it is related to different process and evaluation of
» the product. However, i agree it’s pure speculation.

I would totally buy this Ji Gami Chico Nikita Thing :wink:

Best post ever ^^

Aber New York City was the best :wink:

Finally we have something to laugh :smiley:

» C and N are mere letters and must not even comply to hair related words.
» We know nothing about their internal notation. Perhaps they are name
» abbreviations of the person in charge for each the trail, perhaps it
» has something to do with the location where the trail is taking place,
» or maybe
» N and C denote the block of the building in which the trails are taking
» place. But most probably it is something completely different. As said
» » before… speculation on a single letter is simply ridiculous
»
» QFT

QFT ?

Hmmm, is this just an internet slang for “quit fuck’ng trolls” ?

Anyway, some of the last comments indicate that apparently just a few guys listened carefully Dr. Ken Washenik’s speech/explanations …
http://www.c-hotline.net/?module=Viewer&codeAcc=ADHDf15441b0e61a36b1fab180ee08a233d3

… and/or therefore didn’t even understand the slides:
http://www.aderans.co.jp/hd/english/ir/financial/pdf/plan/m_management_handout_e2.pdf

So what did he say loud & clear regarding “Ji Gami”, “Ji Gami N”, “Ji Gami C” and “Ji Gami CN” ???


Dr. Washenik ( 49:45 → ):
“We’re looking at a number of different PERMUTATIONS / VERSIONS of our Ji Gami product …”

Dr. Washenik ( 52:47 → ):
“Ji Gami, as I said earlier, is our cell-based product. But Ji Gami is NOT just 1 cell-based product – it’s actually A PORTFOLIO of a few different VERSIONS of Ji Gami that we have in our pipeline. So this is a …

  1. Ji Gami
  2. Ji Gami N
  3. Ji Gami C
  4. and Ji Gami CN … “

  1. → 4) they didn’t even started these phase II trails for these VERSIONS !!!

And the fuc’ng pics you can see on the slides (PDF) are just pics from the very 1st (1) “Ji Gami” VERSION (= prove of the basic concept & safety on HUMANS)!!

» » C and N are mere letters and must not even comply to hair related words.
» » We know nothing about their internal notation. Perhaps they are
» name

» » abbreviations of the person in charge for each the trail, perhaps
» it
» » has something to do with the location where the trail is taking
» place
,
» » or maybe
» » N and C denote the block of the building in which the trails are
» taking

» » place. But most probably it is something completely different. As
» said
» » » before… speculation on a single letter is simply ridiculous
» »
» » QFT
»
» QFT ?
»
» Hmmm, is this just an internet slang for “quit fuck’ng
» trolls” ?
»
» Anyway, some of the last comments indicate that apparently just a few guys
» listened carefully Dr. Ken Washenik’s speech/explanations …
» http://www.c-hotline.net/?module=Viewer&codeAcc=ADHDf15441b0e61a36b1fab180ee08a233d3
»
» … and/or therefore didn’t even understand the slides:
» Aderans Co., Ltd.
»
» So what did he say loud & clear regarding “Ji Gami”, “Ji Gami N”, “Ji Gami
» C” and “Ji Gami CN” ???
»
» ------------------------------
» Dr. Washenik ( 49:45 → ):
» “We’re looking at a number of different PERMUTATIONS /
» VERSIONS of our Ji Gami product …”
»
» Dr. Washenik ( 52:47 → ):
» “Ji Gami, as I said earlier, is our cell-based product. But Ji
» Gami is NOT just 1 cell-based product – it’s actually A PORTFOLIO of a few
» different VERSIONS of Ji Gami that we have in our pipeline. So this
» is a …
»
» 1) Ji Gami
» 2) Ji Gami N
» 3) Ji Gami C
» 4) and Ji Gami CN … “
» ------------------------------
»
» 2) → 4) they didn’t even started these phase II trails for these
» VERSIONS !!!
»
» And the fuc’ng pics you can see on the slides (PDF) are just pics from the
» very 1st (1) “Ji Gami” VERSION (= prove of the basic concept & safety on
» HUMANS)!!

No you dumbfock it means quoted for truth. Quit speculating on things which you have absolutely no clue about

» No you dumbfock it means quoted for truth.

Ah, thanks. So here again the key points of THE TRUTH you agree:

» Perhaps they are
» » name

» » » abbreviations of the person in charge for each the trail,
» perhaps
» » it
» » » has something to do with the location where the trail is taking
» » place
,
» » » or maybe
» » » N and C denote the block of the building in which the trails are
» » taking

» » » place.

» » » C and N are mere letters and must not even comply to hair related
» words.
» » » We know nothing about their internal notation. Perhaps they are
» » name

» » » abbreviations of the person in charge for each the trail,
» perhaps
» » it
» » » has something to do with the location where the trail is taking
» » place
,
» » » or maybe
» » » N and C denote the block of the building in which the trails are
» » taking

» » » place. But most probably it is something completely different.
» As
» » said
» » » » before… speculation on a single letter is simply ridiculous
» » »
» » » QFT
» »
» » QFT ?
» »
» » Hmmm, is this just an internet slang for “quit fuck’ng
» » trolls” ?
» »
» » Anyway, some of the last comments indicate that apparently just a few
» guys
» » listened carefully Dr. Ken Washenik’s speech/explanations …
» »
» http://www.c-hotline.net/?module=Viewer&codeAcc=ADHDf15441b0e61a36b1fab180ee08a233d3
» »
» » … and/or therefore didn’t even understand the slides:
» »
» Aderans Co., Ltd.
» »
» » So what did he say loud & clear regarding “Ji Gami”, “Ji Gami N”, “Ji
» Gami
» » C” and “Ji Gami CN” ???
» »
» » ------------------------------
» » Dr. Washenik ( 49:45 → ):
» » “We’re looking at a number of different PERMUTATIONS /
» » VERSIONS of our Ji Gami product …”
» »
» » Dr. Washenik ( 52:47 → ):
» » “Ji Gami, as I said earlier, is our cell-based product. But
» Ji
» » Gami is NOT just 1 cell-based product – it’s actually A PORTFOLIO of a
» few
» » different VERSIONS of Ji Gami that we have in our pipeline. So
» this
» » is a …
» »
» » 1) Ji Gami
» » 2) Ji Gami N
» » 3) Ji Gami C
» » 4) and Ji Gami CN … “
» » ------------------------------
» »
» » 2) → 4) they didn’t even started these phase II trails for these
» » VERSIONS !!!
» »
» » And the fuc’ng pics you can see on the slides (PDF) are just pics from
» the
» » very 1st (1) “Ji Gami” VERSION (= prove of the basic concept & safety
» on
» » HUMANS)!!
»
» No you dumbfock it means quoted for truth. Quit speculating on things
» which you have absolutely no clue about

Hey bub you are one hell of braindead retard i give you that. I didnt know what QTF means either, sound like some retarded Counterstrike LOL PWNAGE 1337 Language Crap.

But here is one especially for you

GTFOOTTYSMF

Get the fock out of this thread you stupid mother focker

» Hey bub you are one hell of braindead retard i give you that. I didnt know
» what QTF means either
, sound like some retarded Counterstrike LOL PWNAGE
» 1337 Language Crap.
»
» But here is one especially for you
»
» GTFOOTTYSMF
»
» Get the fock out of this thread you stupid mother focker

Actually, I know very well what the abbr. “QFT” means …


“QFT”, internet slang usually meaning “quoted for truth”. This term applies on forums and posting boards where users can edit their posts, thus the QFT holds the poster to their original statement. It is also used to express agreement with a previous poster’s statement and validate its veracity. Other variations include “quoted for truthiness,” “quoted for truthery,” and “quite fuc’ing true”. QFT can also mean “quit fuc’ing talking”. Also sometime used term “+1”.

… but the “retarded mother focker” ( :stuck_out_tongue: ) didn’t explicit highlight the specific PART of the quote (resp. entire BS) he expressed his agreement …

From the trademark document

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=77002930

It describes services such as “Cells for medical or clinical use, namely, hair follicle cells to be used for hair transplants; Biological hair tissue intended for a subsequent hair transplant”

I’m now pretty sure that:

  • C stands for “Culture”, “Cells” or Chiquita, but is linked to the “biological hair tissue intended for a subsequent hair transplant”
  • N is probably indeed for something like “Neogenesis” and corresponds to the “hair follicle cells to be used for hair transplants” part

One way or another, each letter may refer to this or that described in the TM document.

Iron, politely go FOCK yourself but, before you do that, go learn how to compose a coherent sentence.

» Iron, politely go FOCK yourself but, before you do that, go learn how to
» compose a coherent sentence.

Question #1: Is this sentence a combination of abbreviations and incoherent sentences, invented by the polite & retarded mother focker Mr. Z ?

Questions #2: Is question #1 enough coherent, or is it better in this case to create an abbreviation instead of, like Iron Man’s version of “QFT” ? :smiley:

@FatalEvolution: I was right with the “universal” thingy in the “Unihair” discussion. So why shouldn’t I guess completely wrong with the “C/N-thingy” - eh? :wink:

» From the trademark document
»
» Trademark Status & Document Retrieval
»
» It describes services such as “Cells for medical or clinical use, namely,
» hair follicle cells to be used for hair transplants; Biological hair tissue
» intended for a subsequent hair transplant”
»
» I’m now pretty sure that:
»
» - C stands for “Culture”, “Cells” or Chiquita, but is linked to the
» “biological hair tissue intended for a subsequent hair transplant”
» - N is probably indeed for something like “Neogenesis” and corresponds to
» the “hair follicle cells to be used for hair transplants” part
»
» One way or another, each letter may refer to this or that described in the
» TM document.

I think those letters isn’t really important. They are just trying different versions of the cell based therapy and finally they pick up the best therapy to bring it to market. That said washenik in the video in my opinion.

Just for the record …

COMPARE the new Aderans (JP) informations …


June 2010

VIDEO with Tadao Otsuki (CEO, Aderans/Unihair) and Dr. Ken
Washenik
(ARI):

http://www.c-hotline.net/?module=Viewer&codeAcc=ADHDf15441b0e61a36b1fab180ee08a233d3

Part 1 - Tadao Otsuki ( 00:00 → 35:50 )
http://www.aderans.co.jp/hd/english/ir/financial/pdf/plan/m_management_handout_e.pdf

Part 2 - Dr. Ken Washenik ( 35:50 → 57:03 )
Aderans Co., Ltd.

… with the (similar) old Aderans (JP) informations from June, 2005:


June 2005

“Aderans Medium-term Management Plan - Video (long)”
Thu Jun-30-2005 - 09:52 PM by HM

Aderans plans to introduce cellular biological treatment for hairloss in calendar year 2007.
Fda approval process proceeding according to plan.
Will take Bosley public within 3 years.
Expansion of Bosley into Canada and Mexico (and elsewhere).

Don’t look now, but, Wigs and hair transplant business are still in the business plan mix big time…but wig sales are way DOWN as “20 somethings” just say no to rugs.

Watch powerpoint presentation, about 1/2 hour long.
See (7) Overseas market (3) on link to video below the viewer.
(Of course the Aderans president and COO has hair like Elvis.)

http://www.net-ir.ne.jp/setumei/e81700504ebb/mms/start1.html (not available anymore!)

http://www.net-ir.ne.jp/company/8170/e81700504e2.pdf (not available anymore!)


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Related comments:
http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=7&topic_id=27906&mode=full

CONCLUSION ?

Don’t trust the claims of Aderans that say we’ll have to wait another 3-4 years. That has been the lie for many years now, and we all know how those stories ended. But maybe here you’ll find an answer:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-69554-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html

Whoop-te-do. You’ve discovered Washenik lying about timelines. This isn’t news.

We don’t believe Aderans is closer now because of their statements. We believe it because of their progress in the clinical trails process.

» Whoop-te-do. You’ve discovered Washenik lying about timelines. This isn’t
» news.
»
» We don’t believe Aderans is closer now because of their statements. We
» believe it because of their progress in the clinical trails process.

so are there any good news.

cause to me iron mans oncerns and statements seems like “Nope the next 5 years there will be no HM available”

and to put it in a harsh way “Ari have nothing really on hand”

Actually i think they are not just working in stealth mode, i think they failed with something

If you want a 10-foot-tall christmas tree and the trees all grow at 1-foot per year, then it will take 10 years to grow it.

If you visit a tree lot full of 3ft tall trees and the owner says “I should have some 10-footers within the next 2-4 years” then you know he is lying.

So you come back a few years later when the trees are 7 feet tall. This time the same owner says “I should have some 10 footers in about 2-4 years.” It’s the same statement from the same liar, and yet you can probably believe it this time. He has not gotten any more trustworthy but this time the facts are more in line with his current statements.

so basically we have nothing?! Adreans can not hold to anytimeline. I think they have been keeping us updated recently to bbe fair

» If you want a 10-foot-tall christmas tree and the trees all grow at 1-foot
» per year, then it will take 10 years to grow it.
»
»
» If you visit a tree lot full of 3ft tall trees and the owner says “I
» should have some 10-footers within the next 2-4 years” then you know he is
» lying.
»
» So you come back a few years later when the trees are 7 feet tall. This
» time the same owner says “I should have some 10 footers in about 2-4
» years.” It’s the same statement from the same liar, and yet you can
» probably believe it this time. He has not gotten any more trustworthy but
» this time the facts are more in line with his current statements.

I agree with you about that