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Dont get me wrong but it seems that something awesome is cooking here, cause its so “strange” when surgeons actually reply with positive feedback 
But i have to say the hassan and wong email was kinda rude.
Willy i dont know you but i can only say thank you for your effort and for believe in such stuff.
Willy, thanks for posting that, out of all the doctors I think Dr Bauman has the best and most informative reply.
Sorry guys…One thing that I didn’t make clear is that these are old e-mails from 2007-2008. I was just replying to Spanish Dude’s question as to if I had responses from other doctors than just Dr. Arvind.
BTW…I also found a response from Dr. Umar (2007):
Thank you Bill. I am following advancements by acell and other companies that could portend new trends in hair restoration and dermatology. As soon as I am able to get hold of some human grade product from Acell, I would practically explore ethical uses for it in my field.
Kind regards,
S. Umar, MD FAAD
To be honest, since I didn’t hear anything from any of these doctors, I just figured that Acell had failed. I am just as surprised as anyone else to hear that Dr. Hitzig and Dr. Cooley have claimed to be successful with Acell:-)
Okay, it is unsettling that Dr. Jones didn’t even reply to your email. I will have this into consideration before I defend him so energically as I have been doing so far.
Aside from this aspect, I still Dr. Jones did a great job of communication, and was very honest acknowledging his failure in this Acell experiment, and in the PRP experiment too.
Regarding Hitzigs’ claims, about him contacting Acell in 2004, I suppose its not so important right now, so we will keep it quiet.
cheers-SD
» Spanish Dude,
»
» I had several replies from doctors about Acell…….but, Dr. Arvind was the
» only doctor that continued a dialog with me.
»
»
» Here is the original e-mail that I received from Dr. Arvind:
»
» Dear Bill,
» From what I have read on the website and the cases that they have shown, I
» am optimistic about the product.
» Like you, I too feel that if this product works the way they claim it
» does, then it can revolutionize HT.
» After all, the limiting factor in HTs today is the donor.
» ----------------
» My problem is that due to the distance and the time difference I am not
» possible to contact the company.
»
» Is it possible to obtain a sample of the product? Can you find out how
» close they are to launching the product in the market, for medical uses
» other than hair transplants.
»
» Thanks for your effort and will appreciate any help.
» Regards,
» Dr. A
»
» We had several conversations over the next month or two about Acell, but
» Dr. Arvind was not able to get a shipment of the product because he was in
» India. I haven’t spoken with him in a while, and I really don’t know where
» he stands on trying Acell at this point.
»
»
» I had several other “one time replies” from doctors when I e-mailed them
» about Acell. They replied to my original e-mail again, but I didn’t have
» continued conversations with them. I contacted Acell and sent them copies
» of those replies………here is a copy of the e-mail that I sent to Acell:
»
»
» Hi XXXX,
»
» I e-mailed over 60 doctors about Acell. I received several responses. I
» thought you might be interested so I am going to copy/paste them to this
» e-mail. There were two responses that were sent to another forum member
» also. I will include a paraphrased version of those.
»
» Take Care,
» Bill XXXXXX
» Pittsburgh, PA
»
» P.S. Sorry, I tried to alternate colors to make it easier to read…but
» not all of them would let me do it.
»
»
»
» “Dr. Joseph Gallagher” jcg@drjgallagher.com
»
» THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT HOWEVER, AS ANYONE WORTH HIS SALT I WOULD HAVE
» TO EVALUATE THIS PRODUCT WITH SCIERNTIFIC DATA
» WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A DOUBLE BLIND STUDY.
» i THINK I WILL ASK THE COM[ANY IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN
» RESERCH.
» iN ADDITION THIS PRODUCT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE HAIR SOCIETY MEETING
» THIS FALL
»
» THANK FOR YOUR INPUT
»
»
» “Paul Rose” paultrose@yahoo.com
»
» Dear Mr XXXXXX
» Thanks for the email. I looked at the photos. the wound healing is very
» impressive.
» I am not sure that the material promoted hair growth. I think that what we
» are seeing are the effects of wound contraction more than hair growth
» Also canine fur grows differently than primate hair.
» In any case the material may be very useful. I think they need to do a
» controlled study in humans with IRB approval.
» It might be interesting to try in humans who undergo scalp surgery for
» removal of a skin cancer. In some of these situations we allow the wound to
» granulate in anyway.
»
» Paul T. Rose MD, JD Past President ISHRS Board of Trustees, ISCLS cell 612
» 965 4247 office 813 259 9889 office 813 924 4247
»
»
» “DrCarlBazan” doctor@itzan.com
»
» Dear Bill
»
» I am interested in any and all technologies that can improve the outcome
» of HT procedures and, better yet, improve/enlarge or multiply donor
» supply.
»
» Of course, in my case it is very difficult to accept any research program
» for the improvement of hair loss patients because I spent many years trying
» methods to multiply hair and I failed in providing safety and consistency.
» After I announced that in my opinion I could not do it because it was
» beyond my budget (100% private funds, never obtained a single dollar from
» the donations or partmerships intended) I was severly attacked by a few
» members of known hairloss and HT boards.
»
» Same happened to Conradus Gho and other doctors that on teir private funds
» attempted to multiply donor supply and failed.
» So if this new case (acell) fails to achieve the expected regrowth it will
» result that for same reason people will attack the researcher as it is our
» fault that it ultimately does not work as originally planned.
»
» I thank the kindness of your invitation and wish you the best luck in this
» great idea (acell).
»
» Truly,
» Carl Bazan, MD
» www.itzan.com
» FUE HT / Mexico
»
»
» Dr. Greco grecophd@comcast.net
» Thank you Bill for this information and I can see the excitement when you
» see the photos of animal wounds and hair re growth. I have also given you
» Case Studies of Equine wounds and rapid healing with hair regrowth with PRP
» and our natural protein matrix, but regrowing hair from a wound on an
» animal and regrowing hair after the follicle is removed from a human is
» very different.
»
» We will continue in our research, that is also FDA approved and based our
» experience in 28,000 human procedures and the answers we are all working
» toward may fall somewhere in the middle. Lets keep in contact and share
» information as we are all in this together.
»
»
» Dr. Cole michelle@forhair.com
»
» Good Morning Bill,
» I have forwarded this information to Dr. Cole and thanks… We have
» actually heard quite a bit about this product especially in the last few
» weeks…
» Do you work for this company?
»
» Thanks
»
» When I responded that I do not work for the company:
»
» Thanks Bill… I was just curious… we got so many sales people
» posing as patient
» Thanks and we are taking a look at Acell…
»
»
»
» Frank DeCarlo (Hairclub) fdecarlo@hcfm.com
»
» Mr. XXXXXXX,
» Thank you for the informative pieces of information. I will certainly
» forward this on to our medical team as well as review the materials myself.
» I too hope that an unlimited donor supply would be available. This would
» be a wonderful breakthrough.
»
» Regards,
» DeCarlo
»
»
»
» “Alan J Bauman MD (Bauman Medical)” urgent@baumanmedical.com
»
» Bill,
» Thank you for your email. The video and photos were very interesting.
» If I am not mistaken, ACell’s products currently consist of a
» porcine-derived protein sheet or matrix. There are a number of these
» types of products that have been on the market for years. In my training
» in General Surgery over 15 yrs ago, we used quite a bit of these types of
» products to help heal large surface area wounds all over the human body
» with good success. Personally, seven yrs ago in my hair restoration
» practice, I used a porcine sheet for a patient with a very large area of
» scalp which had been injured and removed down to the skull. Amazing
» regrowth of skin occurred via islands of tissue proliferating up through
» the exposed surface of the skull finally coalescing into complete (yet
» thin) coverage in a few months. Many of the natural components of skin
» were noted in the regrowth of these human patients I’ve seen personally.
» However, sadly, not hair follicles. That patient I personally treated here
» in Florida eventually needed transplants to cover the area.
»
» With regard to patients achieving their goals with current levels of hair
» transplant ‘technology’ I believe your statement is partly false. We
» know through rigorous research projects undertaken by the ISHRS
» (International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery) that the average
» patient today reaches and maintains his hair restoration goal in an average
» of two sessions. My dad, a Norwood 7, needed three, btw. This is mainly
» due to the following factors:
»
» 1)Large amounts of follicles are moved in each transplant session.
» 2)A high density of small incisions often allow a ‘one pass’ result in
» bare areas
» 3)Medical treatments, when used correctly, stop the hair loss progression
» in the non-transplanted hair at least 90% of the time
» 4)The majority of patients treated today have never had old-style
» transplants (which depleted and wasted precious donor hair).
»
» In other words, if you were completely satisfied after you painted your
» house with two coats of ‘permanent,’ weather-proof paint, what good would
» an unlimited supply of paint do for you?
»
» A recent ‘cover’ article in The Hair Transplant Forum (our most prominent
» journal), in fact, highlighted the point that most patients today won’t
» really need some kind of ‘hair multiplication’ to achieve a satisfying
» result, despite the media’s fascination with that kind of technology. The
» key to treating hair loss is not really creating new follicles, but
» reversing and preventing their miniaturization at an early stage, before
» the hair loss is severe.
»
» Therefore, it is my prediction that the recently available genetic testing
» for hair loss, will be the most significant breakthrough in hair loss this
» year.
»
» Sincerely,
» Dr. B.
»
»
»
» “Hasson and Wong” info@hassonandwong.com
»
» Bill,
» Thank you for your email.
»
» The doctors are aware of Acell and have been investigating it. I will
» forward your email to them as I am sure they will find the links very
» useful.
»
» Thank you
» Christina
» Hasson & Wong
» Phone: 604-739-4247
» Fax: 604-739-4244
» Toll Free: 1-800-859-2266
»
»
»
»
» - from Dr. Matt Leavitt: Drmattl@Leavittmgt.com
»
» “I am already receiving samples of the material.
» Thanks”
»
»
»
» - from Prohairclinic:
»
» “We have very good relations with dr. Jones in Ontario. He is going to
» evaluate the product and report.
» Depending on his findings we may be interested in using the product.
»
» Greetings,
» Bart
» Prohairclinic”
»
»
»
» I never spoke (via e-mail or on the phone) with Dr. Jones, Hitzig or
» Cooley. I e-mailed Dr. Jones about Acell, but never received a reply from
» him. I never contacted Dr. Hitzig……but, as I previously stated……I believe
» the other forum member (who contacted me about a doctor in NY who wanted to
» use Acell with plucked hair) was in contact with Dr. Hitzig (that is my
» opinion).
»
»
» As far as contacting Acell as asking them about their 2004 claim……for what
» reason? What would it change? I personally believe that Dr. Hitzig
» learned about Acell from the “buzz” created on this forum…….but either
» way……HE IS THE ONE WHO THOUGHT OF USING IT WITH PLUCKED HAIRS AND MAY HAVE
» FOUND A WAY TO INCREASE OUR DONOR SUPPLY. If Acell does turn out to
» provide us with a breakthrough in hair transplant technology, I would like
» to think that I played a small part in this advancement (for my own ego’s
» sake………and I believe in my heart that I did), but my original and main
» reason for contacting the doctors about Acell has not changed…….I JUST WANT
» A FULL HEAD OF HAIR AGAIN!!!
»
»
» Take Care,
» Bill
Willy in most of these email reponses, the HT doctors claim that they were already informed about of Acell. Considering that these are old responses (2007-2008), it is quite surprising, don’t you think?
even more surprising, because, according to you, when you contacted Acell, they knew nothing about HTs. If all these doctors were really contacting Acell in 2007-2008, Acell should have already known something when you contacted them.
» Sorry guys…One thing that I didn’t make clear is that these are old
» e-mails from 2007-2008. I was just replying to Spanish Dude’s question as
» to if I had responses from other doctors than just Dr. Arvind.
»
» BTW…I also found a response from Dr. Umar (2007):
»
»
» Thank you Bill. I am following advancements by acell and other
» companies that could portend new trends in hair restoration and
» dermatology. As soon as I am able to get hold of some human grade product
» from Acell, I would practically explore ethical uses for it in my field.
»
» Kind regards,
»
»
» S. Umar, MD FAAD
»
»
» To be honest, since I didn’t hear anything from any of these doctors, I
» just figured that Acell had failed. I am just as surprised as anyone else
» to hear that Dr. Hitzig and Dr. Cooley have claimed to be successful with
» Acell:-)
Spanish Dude,
The original post about Acell was made by Wesb on May 10, 2007. It was being used for vet. medicine at that time (I posted under my brother’s name Raptor at the time).
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-1230-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html
Acell was released for human use on or around July 24, 2008. That is the date that I posted that it was released for human use (on Hairsite).
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-34732.html
My letter to the doctors about Acell was sent out on July 29, 2008…four days after release for human use.
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-35124-page-0-category-1-order-time.html
I did e-mail some doctors regarding Acell before it was released for human use to inform them about the product. Here is a post from me back on Feb. 27, 2008 about Dr. Arvind and Drs. Hasson and Wong’s interest in Acell…5 months before it was released for Human use and I sent the e-mail to the 60 doctors about Acell. I can’t find that e-mail right now…I probably have it, but I have 436 saved e-mails in a “Hair” folder and I don’t have the time to go through all of them right now. Here is the post:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-22959.html
Here is an e-mail from Jotronic (from Hasson and Wong) regarding Acell (before it was released for human use):
RE: AcellWednesday, July 25, 2007 3:05 AMFrom: “Jotronic” jotronic@hairtransplanttv.comAdd sender to ContactsTo: “'Bill xxxxxxx”
Thanks for the heads up about your call. You know, while I think it’s exciting that there is already product on the market I am at the same time rather troubled by all the enthusiasm over this new information, by the forum members, and you as well to be honest. I say this because there seems to be hope that a doctor will call a veterinarian and ask them for Matrix to be used on human patients. I think this is wrong and is jumping the gun with product that is, as seen by the government, unfit for human use. I say unfit because of your words that the product is sterile but not to FDA standards for human use. There is a reason for this because if something, ANYTHING, were to go wrong in even the slightest way the doctor could and would not only lose his license but could be prosecuted criminally if one were to push the issue.
I think that the experimentation with this product should wait till it is at least ready in the eyes of Acell to be tested on humans with product that is properly sterilized. My only fear is that someone may try this with Vet rated product and cause serious injury because of these issues of sterility.
As I mentioned before, Acell will have human grade product in a year or less and I am going to (and have been) keep in contact with them until this happens because I want H&W to be in on the testing if we can get cleared for it. That happens by building relationships and that is what my phone calls are designed to doJ If and when this happens, Bill, you will be at the top of the list for people that we try this on.
Will keep in touch,
Joe
The only doctors that seemed aware of Acell were Hasson and Wong…who I had already contacted and Dr. Leavitt (I may have e-mailed him in the original 20…I’ll have to try to find that e-mail…He is the doctor who did my transplants)…I’m not completely sure how he knew about it…remember…the initial post about Acell was made 14 months BEFORE the finalized version of the e-mail (after Acell was released for human use) was sent out…and there were MANY discussions on this forum about it…several of these doctors post on this forum and may have read some of the posts.
Anyways…I’m not really sure what you are getting at? To be honest (and not to be rude) I really don’t have the time to keep going through my old posts and e-mails trying to find this information. I’m just happy to hear that these docs are claiming good results with Acell…as long as they are true!!! 
Take Care,
Bill
Original e-mail exchange with Jotronic (June 19,20 2007):
RE: Ask something else.Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:45 AMFrom: “Bill xxxxx” Add sender to ContactsTo: “Jotronic”
Hi Joe,
That sounds great. If there is anything that we can do…please let us know. My cell phone number is (412) xxx-xxxx. I know that UPMC (in Pittsburgh) is involved with this company to some extent. I will try to find out more about this (since I live in Pgh) and try to find out more info about this product.
Thanks,
Bill
Jotronic wrote:
Bill,
Thanks for writing and for getting the thread started. I rarely follow this
kind of stuff because it’s usually just another load of BS on top of a VERY
large pile. This one got my attention and I’m reservedly optimistic and
excited. I did indeed speak to Mike xxxxxx, the same guy you spoke to. He
told me that he had forwarded my email from yesterday on to the VP of the
company so that is encouraging. He said either the VP or he (Mike) will get
back to me but he make it clear that they were not in production yet and it
"could" take up to a year. I didn’t state “could” in my post because I would
rather have people thinking that it will be a year or longer and surprise
them then give them hope it could be sooner and have it wind up being later.
As far as this goes, I really know nothing more than you and your brother
appear to know. My hope, at the very least, is that this technology will
allow us to completely avoid donor scarring. I know there are hopes of
regrowing the area of strip that was removed and even having new hair
regrown in this new tissue but I am not so hopeful for that much. If it does
indeed deliver this type of regeneration then my jaw will be on the floor
right before I eat my hat but I’m not holding out hope. The donor scarring
issue I think is more realistic based on what I’ve come to learn about
claims like this. You take the highest most optimistic claim of a new
product and expect nothing less than the minimum. I think this case warrants
this type of thinking but of course I hope I’m dead wrong.
If I am able to broker an arrangement with Acell I plan on being a guinea
pig but I know the docs will like to have several subjects so I think that
you and your brother would be ideal since you brought this information to
light to begin with. As more and more of this comes out and I learn more
I’ll present it to all and if H&W does move forward with trials then I will
champion your inclusion. Deal? Even if your participation does not include
actual transferring of hair we could at least open up your donor area,
revise your scar, then see if it simply disappears due to new tissue
regeneration. I’m just throwing ideas out there right now but I think it
makes sense and is only fair.
Thanks again for writing and let me know of anything that you learn. I’ll do
the same.
Cheers,
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: jotronic]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:32 AM
To: jotronic
Subject: Ask something else.
Message:
Ask something else.
Hi Joe,
My name is Bill and I am a member of the Hairsite forum. My twin brother is
known as “raptor” on the forum and has posted there often. I have posted
a few times under his name (since David changed the forum) because I had
trouble reregistering under my old name.
Anyways, the point of my message to you is about Acell. My brother and I
have posted several times about this technology. We are both cautiously
optimistic about this product. I called the company and spoke to a man
named Mike XXXXXXX and he spent 10-15 minutes on the phone with me and, at
the end of the conversation, I was even more excited about this product. To
me, the Acell extracellular biomatrix MIGHT be the answer to the limitless
donor area that HT patients (who have extensive hair loss) need.
What’s even more exciting is the fact that this product is already on the
market in certain areas of medicine. I believe that there is a need for
someone to bridge the gap between this technology and the HT community. I
hope you can start that trend.
I live in the Pittsburgh area and am willing to do anything necessary to
assist in this process. I believe that research is being conducted at UPMC
(in Pittsburgh) and plan on contacting them also. I would appreciate any
direction that you can give in exploring this product more closely.
My brother and I both have had transplants. The first transplant that we
had was performed at the age of 20 (were 37 now) with decent results. Since
then, we’ve each had 3 more surgeries. Although we are both somewhat happy
with our results we’ve come to the conclusion that we cannot achieve a FULL
head of hair with a limited donor region. Because of this, we are waiting
for better technology to arrive…I think that Acell may be the answer
to that.
Sincerely,
Bill
Original e-mail exchange with Dr. Leavitt (8/26/2007):
Hello Bill,
It is nice to hear from you. I am intimately involved with Aderans and also know the researchers at Intercytex. The advancements that will take place are exiting, but have not even cleared phase1 at the FDA. pending the decision by the FDA it will be a 2-3 years at the earliest. However, I am optimistic that the future will brighter for those with limited donor. Please feel free to stay in touch for updates.
Matt
Matt L. Leavitt, DO FAOCD
Diplomate ABHRS
Chairman and CEO
Chief Medical Officer
Advanced Dermatology
Medical Hair Restoration
260 Lookout Place
Ste. 103
Maitland, Florida 32751
Telephone 407-373-0700
Telefax 407-333-9464
407-333-2140
From: Bill XXXXXXX [mailto:billyxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sun 8/26/2007 6:35 AM
To: Dr. Matt Leavitt
Subject: Limitless Donor Supply - Dr. Leavitt
Hi Dr. Leavitt
With the extensive demand placed upon medical professionals today, I’m sure that it is difficult to keep up with the advancing technology in medical field. With companies such as Intercytex and Andrans working on hair multiplication and hair transplant doctors refining techniques in their field, it seems that the field of hair restoration is advancing at at rapid pace.
I follow advancements in the field on a website called “Hairsite”. Many informed members post there often and share information about any new information that they have learned about the field of hair restoration. Many hair transplant doctors post there also.
I (and my twin brother) have had hair transplants several years ago. The first transplant that we had was performed when we were 20 years old (we’re 37 now). Since then, we each have had three more surgeries. Although we are both fairly happy with our results, we’ve come to the conclusion that we cannot achieve a FULL head of hair with limited donor region. Because of this, we are waiting for better technology to arrive.
Anyways, the point of my message to you is about Acell. My brother and I
have posted several times (on hairsite) about this technology. We are both cautiously
optimistic about this product. I called the company and spoke to a man
named Mike xxxxxxx who spent 10-15 minutes on the phone with me and, at
the end of the conversation, I was even more excited about this product. To
me, the Acell extracellular biomatrix MIGHT be the answer to the limitless
donor area that HT patients (who have extensive hair loss) need.
Here are some links to the company:
http://acell.com/ http://acell.com/
Here is a great video to watch:
http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3150131&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.5.1 http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3150131&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.5.1
Here are some pictures of tissue regeneration (WITH HAIR):
Urinary Bladder Matrix (UBM) Technology http://acell.com/vetcases/lucille.html
Urinary Bladder Matrix (UBM) Technology http://acell.com/vetcases/twinkie.html
Urinary Bladder Matrix (UBM) Technology http://acell.com/vetcases/reality.html
What’s even more exciting is the fact that this product is already on the
market in certain areas of medicine. I believe that there is a need for
someone to bridge the gap between this technology and the HT community. I
hope you can start that trend.
I live in the Pittsburgh area and am willing to do anything necessary to
assist in this process. I believe that research is being conducted at UPMC
(in Pittsburgh) and plan on contacting them also. I would appreciate any
direction that you can give in exploring this product more closely.
Sincerely,
Bill xxxxxxx
P.S. You performed two of my surgeries (and my twin brother’s) at Interlock in Pittsburgh about 15 years ago. I am happy to see that your business has grown so well!
Please, Willy, don’t lose more time searching more emails (although they are interesting).
I was just under the impression that most doctors were oviating the fact that it was thanks to you that they learned about Acell. Something like “thanks Willy, but we already knew this stuff”.
» Spanish Dude,
»
» The original post about Acell was made by Wesb on May 10, 2007. It was
» being used for vet. medicine at that time (I posted under my brother’s name
» Raptor at the time).
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-1230-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html
»
»
»
» Acell was released for human use on or around July 24, 2008. That is the
» date that I posted that it was released for human use (on Hairsite).
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-34732.html
»
»
»
» My letter to the doctors about Acell was sent out on July 29,
» 2008…four days after release for human use.
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-35124-page-0-category-1-order-time.html
»
»
»
» I did e-mail some doctors regarding Acell before it was released for human
» use to inform them about the product. Here is a post from me back on Feb.
» 27, 2008 about Dr. Arvind and Drs. Hasson and Wong’s interest in
» Acell…5 months before it was released for Human use and I sent the
» e-mail to the 60 doctors about Acell. I can’t find that e-mail right
» now…I probably have it, but I have 436 saved e-mails in a “Hair” folder
» and I don’t have the time to go through all of them right now. Here is the
» post:
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-22959.html
»
»
»
» Here is an e-mail from Jotronic (from Hasson and Wong) regarding Acell
» (before it was released for human use):
»
» RE: AcellWednesday, July 25, 2007 3:05 AMFrom: “Jotronic”
» jotronic@hairtransplanttv.comAdd sender to ContactsTo: “'Bill xxxxxxx”
»
»
» Thanks for the heads up about your call. You know, while I think it’s
» exciting that there is already product on the market I am at the same time
» rather troubled by all the enthusiasm over this new information, by the
» forum members, and you as well to be honest. I say this because there seems
» to be hope that a doctor will call a veterinarian and ask them for Matrix
» to be used on human patients. I think this is wrong and is jumping the gun
» with product that is, as seen by the government, unfit for human use. I say
» unfit because of your words that the product is sterile but not to FDA
» standards for human use. There is a reason for this because if something,
» ANYTHING, were to go wrong in even the slightest way the doctor could and
» would not only lose his license but could be prosecuted criminally if one
» were to push the issue.
»
»
»
» I think that the experimentation with this product should wait till it is
» at least ready in the eyes of Acell to be tested on humans with product
» that is properly sterilized. My only fear is that someone may try this with
» Vet rated product and cause serious injury because of these issues of
» sterility.
»
»
»
» As I mentioned before, Acell will have human grade product in a year or
» less and I am going to (and have been) keep in contact with them until this
» happens because I want H&W to be in on the testing if we can get cleared
» for it. That happens by building relationships and that is what my phone
» calls are designed to doJ If and when this happens, Bill, you will be at
» the top of the list for people that we try this on.
»
»
»
» Will keep in touch,
»
»
»
» Joe
»
»
»
» The only doctors that seemed aware of Acell were Hasson and Wong…who
» I had already contacted and Dr. Leavitt (I may have e-mailed him in the
» original 20…I’ll have to try to find that e-mail…He is the doctor
» who did my transplants)…I’m not completely sure how he knew about
» it…remember…the initial post about Acell was made 14 months
» BEFORE the finalized version of the e-mail (after Acell was released for
» human use) was sent out…and there were MANY discussions on this forum
» about it…several of these doctors post on this forum and may have read
» some of the posts.
»
»
» Anyways…I’m not really sure what you are getting at? To be honest
» (and not to be rude) I really don’t have the time to keep going through my
» old posts and e-mails trying to find this information. I’m just happy to
» hear that these docs are claiming good results with Acell…as long as
» they are true!!!
»
»
» Take Care,
» Bill
» Most importantly, I think that Cooley and Hitzig have become public because
» there are other doctors trying, and they wanted to be the first ones. Even
» if it is too soon to ascertain success.
i really hope that these doctors succeed, the good thing about this is that it doesnt mater who is the first, any doctor can duplicate the acell experiment, no one company can monopolize the market which means the consumers benefit in the end.
» Willy, thanks for posting that, out of all the doctors I think Dr Bauman
» has the best and most informative reply.
“Alan J Bauman MD (Bauman Medical)” urgent@baumanmedical.com
Bill,
Thank you for your email. The video and photos were very interesting.
If I am not mistaken, ACell’s products currently consist of a porcine-derived protein sheet or matrix. There are a number of these types of products that have been on the market for years. In my training in General Surgery over 15 yrs ago, we used quite a bit of these types of products to help heal large surface area wounds all over the human body with good success. Personally, seven yrs ago in my hair restoration practice, I used a porcine sheet for a patient with a very large area of scalp which had been injured and removed down to the skull. Amazing regrowth of skin occurred via islands of tissue proliferating up through the exposed surface of the skull finally coalescing into complete (yet thin) coverage in a few months. Many of the natural components of skin were noted in the regrowth of these human patients I’ve seen personally. However, sadly, not hair follicles. That patient I personally treated here in Florida eventually needed transplants to cover the area.
With regard to patients achieving their goals with current levels of hair transplant ‘technology’ I believe your statement is partly false. We know through rigorous research projects undertaken by the ISHRS (International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery) that the average patient today reaches and maintains his hair restoration goal in an average of two sessions. My dad, a Norwood 7, needed three, btw. This is mainly due to the following factors:
1)Large amounts of follicles are moved in each transplant session.
2)A high density of small incisions often allow a ‘one pass’ result in bare areas
3)Medical treatments, when used correctly, stop the hair loss progression in the non-transplanted hair at least 90% of the time
4)The majority of patients treated today have never had old-style transplants (which depleted and wasted precious donor hair).
In other words, if you were completely satisfied after you painted your house with two coats of ‘permanent,’ weather-proof paint, what good would an unlimited supply of paint do for you?
A recent ‘cover’ article in The Hair Transplant Forum (our most prominent journal), in fact, highlighted the point that most patients today won’t really need some kind of ‘hair multiplication’ to achieve a satisfying result, despite the media’s fascination with that kind of technology. The key to treating hair loss is not really creating new follicles, but reversing and preventing their miniaturization at an early stage, before the hair loss is severe.
Therefore, it is my prediction that the recently available genetic testing for hair loss, will be the most significant breakthrough in hair loss this year.
Maybe there are A FEW HT patients out there who got “acceptable” results, but they are NOT the rule!
Experienced guys like the following one REPRESENT the rule of reality out there:
I said it before and I’ll say it again. Bauman is a stinking scumbag.
Need I remind people Bauman was charging people $20,000 for 1500 grafts using the Neograft (that’s over $13/graft) when the US neotech website quotes the same procedure at $2.50.graft.
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-74532.html
People like Bauman should be run out their profession with pitchforks and fire.
» » Willy, thanks for posting that, out of all the doctors I think Dr Bauman
» » has the best and most informative reply.
»
» Nope. What Dr. Bauman said in his reply is – B U L L S H I T at the
» highest degree:
» -----------------------------------
» “Alan J Bauman MD (Bauman Medical)”
» urgent@baumanmedical.com
»
» Bill,
» Thank you for your email. The video and photos were very interesting.
» If I am not mistaken, ACell’s products currently consist of a
» porcine-derived protein sheet or matrix. There are a number of these types
» of products that have been on the market for years. In my training in
» General Surgery over 15 yrs ago, we used quite a bit of these types of
» products to help heal large surface area wounds all over the human body
» with good success. Personally, seven yrs ago in my hair restoration
» practice, I used a porcine sheet for a patient with a very large area of
» scalp which had been injured and removed down to the skull. Amazing
» regrowth of skin occurred via islands of tissue proliferating up through
» the exposed surface of the skull finally coalescing into complete (yet
» thin) coverage in a few months. Many of the natural components of skin were
» noted in the regrowth of these human patients I’ve seen personally.
» However, sadly, not hair follicles. That patient I personally treated here
» in Florida eventually needed transplants to cover the area.
»
» With regard to patients achieving their goals with current levels of hair
» transplant ‘technology’ I believe your statement is partly false. We know
» through rigorous research projects undertaken by the ISHRS (International
» Society of Hair Restoration Surgery) that the average patient today reaches
» and maintains his hair restoration goal in an average of two sessions. My
» dad, a Norwood 7, needed three, btw. This is mainly due to the following
» factors:
»
» 1)Large amounts of follicles are moved in each transplant session.
» 2)A high density of small incisions often allow a ‘one pass’ result in
» bare areas
» 3)Medical treatments, when used correctly, stop the hair loss progression
» in the non-transplanted hair at least 90% of the time
» 4)The majority of patients treated today have never had old-style
» transplants (which depleted and wasted precious donor hair).
»
» In other words, if you were completely satisfied after you painted your
» house with two coats of ‘permanent,’ weather-proof paint, what good
» would an unlimited supply of paint do for you?
»
» A recent ‘cover’ article in The Hair Transplant Forum (our most prominent
» journal), in fact, highlighted the point that most patients today won’t
» really need some kind of ‘hair multiplication’ to achieve a satisfying
» result, despite the media’s fascination with that kind of technology. The
» key to treating hair loss is not really creating new follicles, but
» reversing and preventing their miniaturization at an early stage, before
» the hair loss is severe.
»
» Therefore, it is my prediction that the recently available genetic testing
» for hair loss, will be the most significant breakthrough in hair loss this
» year.
»
» Sincerely,
» Dr. B.
» -----------------------------------
»
» Maybe there are A FEW HT patients out there who got “acceptable”
» results, but they are NOT the rule!
»
» Experienced guys like the following one REPRESENT the rule of
» reality out there:
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board_entry.php?id=73539&page=0&category=2&order=last_answer&descasc=DESC#p74889
» Spanish Dude,
»
» The original post about Acell was made by Wesb on May 10, 2007. It was
» being used for vet. medicine at that time (I posted under my brother’s name
» Raptor at the time).
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-1230-page-0-category-1-order-last_answer.html
»
» Acell was released for human use on or around July 24, 2008. That is the
» date that I posted that it was released for human use (on Hairsite).
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-34732.html
Just for the record …
Dr. Rassman - June 25, 2007
Source: Extracellular Matrix? – WRassman,M.D. BaldingBlog
Thanks for the find Iron Man…let’s just hope his initial feelings were wrong about Acell!
That is why I think the internet and forums like this are amazing. We have a bunch of peope, with a common interest, that can work together towards a common goal. With this forum, a group of people (who don’t really know each other) were able to get the word out about Acell to doctors around the world. I feel like the “buzz” on this forum helped raise awareness and interest in Acell…enough for doctors to become interested and try it…and SO FAR the results look pretty promising…time will tell. 
» Thanks for the find Iron Man…let’s just hope his initial feelings were
» wrong about Acell!
Yea, the same matter here …
The BIG problem out there is -and that’s really CRAZY- they always comfortably wait until OTHERS move their ass!!
From just a “looking forward”-mentality – nothing will happen!
Nice to see you are back on hairsite Willy and that your time spent was worthwhile (despite the usual bashers as on any websites). Depending on results (still need much more before/after pics & feedback) the Acell stuff makes it worth to consider HT.
Iron Man…HOPEFULLY enough doctors know about this stuff now, so IF it works…hopefully it can’t be held back.
LatinLover…Thanks. I agree with you…lets wait for more doctors to check this stuff out and show resutls (before and after pics). Also, hopefully, if more docs use these techniques, it will be more affordable. I’ve already had HT, so I don’t have the “virgin scalp” issue, but I’ve seen so many bad procedures (in pics) that I’m not to quick to jump into the surgeon’s chair either. I want to see alot more pics/proof too.
Willy,
Have you had any contact with Dr Brandy? He is a nationally recognized HT doctor and he is headquarted in Pittsburgh.
» Time will tell if Drs. Hitzig, Cooley, Rassman, ect…provide an
» effective treament with Acell to provide a better supply (hopefully
» limitless) for HT patients. I am cautiously optimistic but don’t want to
» get my (or anyone else’s) hopes up too much yet…WE WILL JUST HAVE TO
» WAIT AND SEE.
»
» The fact that Dr. Jones’ attempt at using Acell didn’t prove effective at
» regenerating removed donor tissue/hair cast a negative light on Acell and
» made the forum members (myself included) lose hope in this product. Now,
» Dr. Hitzig and Dr. Cooley are claiming success with the use of Acell
» utilizing a different technique. This is why I felt it was so important to
» contact as many doctors as possible about this product…to prevent a
» false negative result from it. Here is the post:
»
»
» http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-35201.html
I contacted Dr. Brandy via David Flodine back with the e-mail to 60 doctors in 2008:
29 David Flodine (Dr. Brandy)
dflodine@brandymddotcom
I actually had transplants at Dr. Brandy’s office back around 1995 from one of his associates. I’m pretty sure Mr. Flodine is Dr. Brandy’s brother-in-law. Dr. Brandy doesn’t have the best reputation in the field…although I have no complaints about the work I had done by his associate. Regardless, they never responded to my e-mail.
» I contacted Dr. Brandy via David Flodine back with the
» e-mail to 60 doctors in 2008:
And what happend with the following guy? 
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-37180-page-0-category-1-order-time.html
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