» Ahab, the same photo is in Hitzig’s site:
» http://www.nyhairloss.com/acell.htm
»
» -The undertitle claims very clearly that there is new hair at 4 months
» after.
» "New hair growth in donor scar 4 months later.
»
» -As you say, it is surprising that new hair could be that long at just 4
» months (resting period is normally 3 months or more).
» That combed-over hair, looks like old hair, not new hair.
»
» -I have drawn little yellow dots to show what I think it is the
» correspondence between 2 photos (approximately). In the after photo, it
» looks like there is a hairless area as wide as in the before photo. There
» is a gap in the before photo, in the upper portion of the scar, that indeed
» looks covered in the after photo. But as there is adhesive there, you can’t
» see it well.
»
» -I don’t see the redness that Cooley has shown in the slides (due to new
» blood vessels being formed).
»
» -Conclusion: no new hair (except in the uper portion), and same scar
» width. It looks to me that very little has been done.
Either my eyes or yours need some serious checking. Mine see clearly new hair, strong and healthy looking terminal ones, along or very near the old scar line. Am I missing(or addding)something?
»
»
This photo is a total calamity. Cooley is credible, Hitzig is not. But
» curiously, Hitzig is the alleged mastermind.
»
»
»
»
»
»
»
»
» » » » I admit, these photos confuse me. I can still see the scar in the
» » » second
» » » » photo. It just looks like they’ve combed a few hairs down from
» above
» » » the
» » » » scar to cover it. Hair counts would be one thing, but I don’t even
» » » » understand what we’re supposed to be seeing in the photos, let
» alone
» » » » worrying about hair counts!
» »
» » Hair grows at less than a half-inch a month.
» »
» » Any new hair in that photo is about a half-inch long or longer.
» »
» » Add to that how long it takes to grow a new follicle from cells +
» Acell,
» » and I don’t think you could grow new follicles and have hair as long in
» » four months.
» »
» » HOWEVER, as you said, there is a big question as to what that photo is
» » supposed to show and whether it is meant to go along with the snippet
» of
» » text shown with it.
» »
» » I’m guessing the photo is meant to show scar revision, and not hair
» » growth, and that the photo somehow got confused with text talking about
» » Acell’s ability to form new follicles.
» Either my eyes or yours need some serious checking. Mine see clearly
» new hair, strong and healthy looking terminal ones, along or very near the
» old scar line. Am I missing(or addding)something?
Haven’t you read my post, or Ahab’s post? We are saying that at only 4 months there is no time for the plucked hairs to rest, and then grow that long.
Also, under those hairs, it looks like there is still a void gap.
If Hitzig had wanted to prove something, he would have posted something clearer.
Cooley is posting credible photos (although at very low resolution in the slides), and credible explanations. Hitzig didn’t.
btw, are you Frank at Xconomy?
»
» »
» »
»
» This photo is a total calamity. Cooley is credible, Hitzig is not. But
» » curiously, Hitzig is the alleged mastermind.
»
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» »
» » » » » I admit, these photos confuse me. I can still see the scar in
» the
» » » » second
» » » » » photo. It just looks like they’ve combed a few hairs down from
» » above
» » » » the
» » » » » scar to cover it. Hair counts would be one thing, but I don’t
» even
» » » » » understand what we’re supposed to be seeing in the photos, let
» » alone
» » » » » worrying about hair counts!
» » »
» » » Hair grows at less than a half-inch a month.
» » »
» » » Any new hair in that photo is about a half-inch long or longer.
» » »
» » » Add to that how long it takes to grow a new follicle from cells +
» » Acell,
» » » and I don’t think you could grow new follicles and have hair as long
» in
» » » four months.
» » »
» » » HOWEVER, as you said, there is a big question as to what that photo
» is
» » » supposed to show and whether it is meant to go along with the snippet
» » of
» » » text shown with it.
» » »
» » » I’m guessing the photo is meant to show scar revision, and not hair
» » » growth, and that the photo somehow got confused with text talking
» about
» » » Acell’s ability to form new follicles.
» » This photo is a total calamity. Cooley is credible, Hitzig
» is not. But
» » curiously, Hitzig is the alleged mastermind.
»
» Spanish DUD, you said clearly BOTH are charlatans ? I’m confused …
You are always confused, Iron_Scrap.
But I am going to explain to you, again:
Iron_Man (Hair Robin Hood):
-Do you think legit researchers want your “idiotic inconditional support”?
-any researcher who is a bit intelligent, will prefer my intelligent bashings, that your stupid robotic support. You support any researcher, no matter how credible he is, and no matter how many red flags he has attached. (except Whitfield, because you don’t like his face, and then you suddenly notice his red flags).
-Why you try to inflame and destroy every thread?
-Don’t you think my question to Dr. Cooley was interesting?
-Why you post in different forums with different names?
-when Hitzig posted about his “first ever cloning breakthrough”, Cooley was interviewed by Kobren, and we all thought that this was another hype. Even Kobren said: “guys, this is not the cure”. Are you going to bash Kobren too, Robot_Man?
-So, given the past of Gho, given the past of Hitzig, and given that Cooley and Kemp got us entertained for 5 years at Intercytex with full of hopes and not a single photo, it was pretty natural to guess that all this Hitzig-Gho-Cooley was yet another fiasco. Only a retard like you, Iron_Man, who inconditionally believes any researcher, at any cost, would keep pushing ahead.
-So even if Cooley method works, you are still a retard, Iron_Man
-And congratulations, Iron_Man, you have destroyed yet another interesting thread.
<<<<
» » Either my eyes or yours need some serious checking. Mine see clearly
» » new hair, strong and healthy looking terminal ones, along or very near
» the
» » old scar line. Am I missing(or addding)something?
»
» Haven’t you read my post, or Ahab’s post? We are saying that at only 4
» months there is no time for the plucked hairs to rest, and then grow that
» long.
» Also, under those hairs, it looks like there is still a void gap.
» If Hitzig had wanted to prove something, he would have posted something
» clearer.
» Cooley is posting credible photos (although at very low resolution in the
» slides), and credible explanations. Hitzig didn’t.
»
» btw, are you Frank at Xconomy?
»
» Nope.
» »
» » »
» » »
» »
» » This photo is a total calamity. Cooley is credible, Hitzig is not. But
» » » curiously, Hitzig is the alleged mastermind.
» »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » »
» » » » » » I admit, these photos confuse me. I can still see the scar in
» » the
» » » » » second
» » » » » » photo. It just looks like they’ve combed a few hairs down from
» » » above
» » » » » the
» » » » » » scar to cover it. Hair counts would be one thing, but I don’t
» » even
» » » » » » understand what we’re supposed to be seeing in the photos, let
» » » alone
» » » » » » worrying about hair counts!
» » » »
» » » » Hair grows at less than a half-inch a month.
» » » »
» » » » Any new hair in that photo is about a half-inch long or longer.
» » » »
» » » » Add to that how long it takes to grow a new follicle from cells +
» » » Acell,
» » » » and I don’t think you could grow new follicles and have hair as
» long
» » in
» » » » four months.
» » » »
» » » » HOWEVER, as you said, there is a big question as to what that photo
» » is
» » » » supposed to show and whether it is meant to go along with the
» snippet
» » » of
» » » » text shown with it.
» » » »
» » » » I’m guessing the photo is meant to show scar revision, and not hair
» » » » growth, and that the photo somehow got confused with text talking
» » about
» » » » Acell’s ability to form new follicles.
» » » This photo is a total calamity. Cooley is credible,
» Hitzig
» » is not. But
» » » curiously, Hitzig is the alleged mastermind.
» »
» » Spanish DUD, you said clearly BOTH are charlatans ? I’m confused …
»
» You are always confused, Iron_Scrap.
» But I am going to explain to you, again:
»
» >>>
» Iron_Man (Hair Robin Hood):
»
» -Do you think legit researchers want your “idiotic inconditional
» support”?
» -any researcher who is a bit intelligent, will prefer my intelligent
» bashings, that your stupid robotic support. You support any researcher, no
» matter how credible he is, and no matter how many red flags he has
» attached. (except Whitfield, because you don’t like his face, and then you
» suddenly notice his red flags).
» -Why you try to inflame and destroy every thread?
» -Don’t you think my question to Dr. Cooley was interesting?
» -Why you post in different forums with different names?
» -when Hitzig posted about his “first ever cloning breakthrough”, Cooley
» was interviewed by Kobren, and we all thought that this was another hype.
» Even Kobren said: “guys, this is not the cure”. Are you going to bash
» Kobren too, Robot_Man?
» -So, given the past of Gho, given the past of Hitzig, and given that
» Cooley and Kemp got us entertained for 5 years at Intercytex with full of
» hopes and not a single photo, it was pretty natural to guess that all this
» Hitzig-Gho-Cooley was yet another fiasco. Only a retard like you, Iron_Man,
» who inconditionally believes any researcher, at any cost, would keep
» pushing ahead.
» -So even if Cooley method works, you are still a retard, Iron_Man
» -And congratulations, Iron_Man, you have destroyed yet another interesting
» thread.
» <<<<
» Either my eyes or yours need some serious checking. Mine see clearly
» new hair, strong and healthy looking terminal ones, along or very near the
» old scar line. Am I missing(or addding)something?
No, you miss nothing.
Actually, I could see the same than you (what else ???), since this before & after photo has been published (January 2010) here on HairSite by HairSite.
It seems so what a shame what a shame this coward. First playing the big shot with bashing everything and everyone and now he is crawling on his knees and speaks with angel voices what a shameless hack.
Anyways thanks you guys for providing nice and important informations and to be honest
I did also see only terminal hair even with close looking but hey it only counts when the SPanish Crapfest says its like that right
» Either my eyes or yours need some serious checking. Mine see clearly
» new hair, strong and healthy looking terminal ones, along or very near the
» old scar line. Am I missing(or addding)something?
»
» »
» »
» »
This photo shows absolutely nothing. If they wanted to show anything important on photos, they would have been used professional photos with same light, position and size.
I wonder why those Gho- and Hitzig-followers are still here even though the cure is available.
» And why are you here? Shouldnt you troll alopezie.de right now
No Leeroy, according to @cal’s same question, the psycho Matigol is waiting for the one time pill for just 1 Dollar to get a full head of hair – overnight of course!
Dr. Cooley visited Dr. Hitzig April 2009 in New York. Right?
Whatever Dr. Hitzig could show Dr. Cooley during this meeting (photos, patients etc), at least Cooley must have been VERY impressed …
» Hitzig & Cooley
»
» Dr. Cooley visited Dr. Hitzig April 2009 in New York. Right?
» Whatever Dr. Hitzig could show Dr. Cooley during this meeting (photos,
» patients etc), at least Cooley must have been VERY impressed …
Those pics look pretty impressive. I’m looking forward to seeing more before and after pics from docs using Acell. I’m also hoping more and more docs try this stuff out. I don’t want to get my hopes up, but it looks pretty promising at this point.
» You cant bring me down cause hairproblems will be solved pretty soon
»
»
Iron-Jenkins quote:That means, due to my 4 flopped strip HT’s during the 90’s (I’m a pretty similar case like the dutch singer Gerard Joling), currently I have just about 10000 healthy FOLLICULAR UNITS (all in all) left in my donor area. So that means, I have just about max. 3000 (~30%) FOLLICULAR UNITS left for a 5th HT procedure – all in all - to cover up a NW-5 candidate …
So what shall I do?
I’m absolutely convinced, that e.g. Dr. Gho with his HST technique could COMPLETELY solve my mess on my head (repair of my butchered donor and “partially butchered” recipient area), but in my own case, it would cost my the hell of TIME and money. If I would be a VIRGIN NW-2 to NW-5 candidate – just Dr. Gho, definitely!
So my personally “plan” looks like as follows:
Step 1: Waiting for solutions by Aderans and/or Histogen;
Step2: To fill up the rest (scar tissue in the recipient area, hairline etc) AND my scars on my back of the head, with suitable/useful approaches by Dr. Gho, maybe Dr. Hitzig and/or Dr. Cooley, to preserve my donor follicles …
It must be hard for you, being abused 4 times by a butcher. And it seems that the butcher not only left scars on your head! With the skin-strips, he apparently removed your little brain at the same time.
» Iam happy right now ^^
»
» Oh how cute there is a little boy running down your street…go get him
» tiger go get him ^^
I’m sure that you are happy when you see little boys and your inner self talks to you!!!
I have met Hitzig and he is a very creepy guy with a terrible reputation and has screwed up alot of peoples heads. He is and old school guy that was doing the barbaric stuff 25 years ago. Anybody who could disfigure another human being for profit is essentially close to being a mengele type. I hope the guy figures it all out but there are alotta sociopaths involved in this industry, especially the old school butchers.
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even though the cure is available.