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Stem cell; cell based hair therapy
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forresthill,

I keep bringing up the dermabrasion idea with Acell too, at least to try it once before we jump right to bleeding wounds.

But I’ve begun to feel like there’s some kind of curious resistance to this idea in the MPB world. On here and even on some other websites, nobody seems to take this idea very seriously. Everyone just seems to assume it’ll have to bleed to do any good. Even though dermabrasion can help restart the follicle forming process with some of the other HM methods.

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» I keep bringing up the dermabrasion idea with Acell too, at least to try
» it once before we jump right to bleeding wounds.
»
» But I’ve begun to feel like there’s some kind of curious resistance to
» this idea in the MPB world. On here and even on some other websites,
» nobody seems to take this idea very seriously. Everyone just seems to
» assume it’ll have to bleed to do any good. Even though dermabrasion can
» help restart the follicle forming process with some of the other HM
» methods.

I mentioned that as well, but the problem I see with that approach is that superficial abrasion probably won’t cause any damage to the follicle thus no need for body to repair it. Still its worth a shot, especially if the power is cheap.

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I will stay tuned.

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» forresthill,
»
» I keep bringing up the dermabrasion idea with Acell too, at least to try
» it once before we jump right to bleeding wounds.
»
» But I’ve begun to feel like there’s some kind of curious resistance to
» this idea in the MPB world. On here and even on some other websites,
» nobody seems to take this idea very seriously. Everyone just seems to
» assume it’ll have to bleed to do any good. Even though dermabrasion can
» help restart the follicle forming process with some of the other HM
» methods.

No resistance here Cal. I just feel that if you regrow hair in a place that has been genetically programed to fall out that it may fall out again if it grows at all. I really know nothing about it, that’s just a gut feeling so I very well may be wrong and truly hope that I am. Also, the fact that I’ve already had strip surgery (with pretty decent results…I just need more coverage to feel “finished”) makes me less objectionalble to a HT. If there’s a better way to use this stuff, bring it on.

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» » My hair changed during my early teens. If Acell gave me back my natural
» » follicles but they had been reverted to an early stage of my life, then
» the
» » hair characteristics might literally not match the rest of my head.
»
» It never ceases to amaze me how fussy some of you people get.
»
» You should only know.
»
» (Why me, oh God, and not the dufuses?)

GIVE ME my 5 years old Hair , and I’ll be praying for acell inventors day and night, HAPPY for the rest of my life.I dont care how much it changed or anything else I’ll manage to make it wonderful !And so should think each one of you.

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» But I do have one question that remains to be answered about Acell & HM:
» What about those of us whos hair characteristics have changed DURING their
» lifetime?
»
» My hair changed during my early teens. If Acell gave me back my natural
» follicles but they had been reverted to an early stage of my life, then the
» hair characteristics might literally not match the rest of my head.

May I ask … what do you exactly mean by “hair characteristics” ? do you mean curly/straight hair ?

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I searched this site for new drugs but couldn’t find anything

http://www.centerwatch.com/patient/drugs/druglist.html

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» I searched this site for new drugs but couldn’t find anything
»
» http://www.centerwatch.com/patient/drugs/druglist.html
I think it has been approved earlier by the FDA.

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Sceptic -

When I was a child, I had straight/mildly wavy hair that was meduim brown. But after about 12-14yo my hair had gone much curlier and almost black, which it has stayed ever since.

Regrowing my childhood-type hair on my head at this point would definitely NOT match the rest of my hair. The difference is enough that it would literally look like a hairpiece to have both kinds of hair on my head at once.

I don’t know whether it would be an issue with Acell or not. My gut feeling says that it probably won’t be an issue, and that the characteristics difference would be a universal changeover all across my body because I’m an adult now.

(If I regenerated my underarm skin with Acell, I would expect to probably still have underarm hair and body odor, which I did not have before puberty either. This seems like the same principle as what I’m sugggesting about hair changes throughout development.)

Like I said, I’m not VERY concerned about this potential difference issue happening. But there’s no way of knowing for sure until it’s been tried.

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the company exist since 2001. how can they do FDA tests in 7-8 years?`

is that possible? if yes, then maybe maybe acell is something real and if its real then its a great thing.

though they would have to start FDA test asap after their foundation.

is it possible in 7-8 years?

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Long time lurker here.

» Hells bells, if the stuff works, let them scalp you indian style and then
» sprinkle it on.

This is what Im thinking which might actually be a problem for Acell. Basically for this to work for hairloss I think you’d need to scalp yourself Hannibal style all over the Norwood 7 region and sprinkle this sh*t all over that huge wound until both the skin and follicles within regenerate.
Just dermabrading isnt gonna do it because that doesnt go far enough in the skin to damage the follicles so Acell will have no effect on them.

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» Long time lurker here.
»
» » Hells bells, if the stuff works, let them scalp you indian style and
» then
» » sprinkle it on.
»
» This is what Im thinking which might actually be a problem for Acell.
» Basically for this to work for hairloss I think you’d need to scalp
» yourself Hannibal style all over the Norwood 7 region and sprinkle this
» sh*t all over that huge wound until both the skin and follicles within
» regenerate.
» Just dermabrading isnt gonna do it because that doesnt go far enough in
» the skin to damage the follicles so Acell will have no effect on them.

Wouldn’t the same degree of wounding be required for the Follica protocol to work as well? The two Getfitinib patients who grew hair on the scalp and nose most likely were not Hannibal victims.

BTW, can we conclude that Getfitinib has grown more hair on a single patient than either Rogaine or Propecia?

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» Long time lurker here.
»
» » Hells bells, if the stuff works, let them scalp you indian style and
» then
» » sprinkle it on.
»
» This is what Im thinking which might actually be a problem for Acell.
» Basically for this to work for hairloss I think you’d need to scalp
» yourself Hannibal style all over the Norwood 7 region and sprinkle this
» sh*t all over that huge wound until both the skin and follicles within
» regenerate.

Oh, for Pete’s sake.

they can always cut a small square or rectangle out of your scalp at a time, which you could cover with a bandaid; then when that heals, do another square–so you wouldn’t have to have the whole top of your head missing all at once.

Or you can stay bald for the rest of your life.

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» You should be able to use it on either form of HT. If you use it for FUE,
» you would probably have to use the powder form. The only problem with the
» powder form is that of direction. That is, the regenerative capabilities of
» the extracellular matrix come from the basal membrane which is on one side
» of the sheet. When it is ground into a powder, it is difficult to be sure
» that the basal membrane if facing in the correct direction (faced out). It
» should still be no problem because, on average, enough particles of the
» basal membrane will be faced in the correct direction to achieve the
» desired results. (Or at least thats what they said when I spoke to
» them…I don’t claim to be an expert on this stuff so don’t take my words
» as law).

If this stuff works well, then screw FUE.

Let them cut out strips and then Acell the wounds.

This will eliminate the need for painstaking and very skilled, very expensive, very slow FUE.

Not to mention how they’d get this powder down into the needle sized thousands of FUE holes is beyond me.

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» Sceptic -
»
» When I was a child, I had straight/mildly wavy hair that was meduim brown.
» But after about 12-14yo my hair had gone much curlier and almost black,
» which it has stayed ever since.
»
» Regrowing my childhood-type hair on my head at this point would definitely
» NOT match the rest of my hair. The difference is enough that it would
» literally look like a hairpiece to have both kinds of hair on my head at
» once.

So pull out the rest of your hair and grow all Acell hair.

Or cut it short.

Or iron your hair, or get a perm.

Or stay bald.

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Hey, I never said it would stop ME from trying to make use of Acell somehow.

(Hell, if this actually did turn out to be an issue, then FUE work could still be used to scatter new & old hairs throughout my head. Mix them in with existing hairs everywhere and it wouldn’t show much.)

I’m just thinking out loud here.

And any issue that hurts commercial widespread acceptance of a HM method should at least be on our radar.

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» Wouldn’t the same degree of wounding be required for the Follica protocol
» to work as well? The two Getfitinib patients who grew hair on the scalp
» and nose most likely were not Hannibal victims.

The thing with Follica is it generates whole new follicles, it doesnt regenerate existing ones as far as I know- which is how Acell would work.
Who knows, maybe dermabrasion is enough for Acell to work, I certainly hope so, but doubt it.

» BTW, can we conclude that Getfitinib has grown more hair on a single
» patient than either Rogaine or Propecia?
Yep, the example on that guy is by far the best regrowth I have ever seen.