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#1

I think that at this moment I am writing this and you are reading what I have written, Follica knows whether their method will work or not. They have probably completed the trials at Harvard and now know what kind of processes are active in humans and whether they will be able to control them or not. But I think that they won’t disclose this information to media, until they feel ready doing that, unfortunately. No way Hairsite could contact them?


#2

» I think that at this moment I am writing this and you are reading what I
» have written, Follica knows whether their method will work or not. They
» have probably completed the trials at Harvard and now know what kind of
» processes are active in humans and whether they will be able to control
» them or not. But I think that they won’t disclose this information to
» media, until they feel ready doing that, unfortunately. No way Hairsite
» could contact them?

While the science may be legitimate, but what if their process only grows a few hairs per square inch? It would technically work, but be of little use cosmetically. I think that it may be possible that they’ve grown a few hairs, and are trying to find ways of increasing count.


#3

» I think that at this moment I am writing this and you are reading what I
» have written, Follica knows whether their method will work or not. They
» have probably completed the trials at Harvard and now know what kind of
» processes are active in humans and whether they will be able to control
» them or not. But I think that they won’t disclose this information to
» media, until they feel ready doing that, unfortunately. No way Hairsite
» could contact them?

the trial at harvard is just going to wound the skin (maybe more than one wounding method) and see what pathways are upregged and what the human immune system does in response to the wound (to see if it will have to be contraindicated in a topical, which I think it probably will have to be in some folks anyway)…they aren’t even trying to grow hair in this trial. They KNOW it works on human skin, they’ve already done that several times in previous trials, but that skin was on the backs of immuno-compromised mice, and there is a difference.


#4

» I think that at this moment I am writing this and you are reading what I
» have written, Follica knows whether their method will work or not. They
» have probably completed the trials at Harvard and now know what kind of
» processes are active in humans and whether they will be able to control
» them or not. But I think that they won’t disclose this information to
» media, until they feel ready doing that, unfortunately. No way Hairsite
» could contact them?

you are such an amazing thinker man. I mean wow :slight_smile:

You know what? PPL like you usually go and start claiming that hey can heal other ppl just by touching them, and that they know the future.


#5

They KNOW it works on human skin, they’ve already done
» that several times in previous trials, but that skin was on the backs of
» immuno-compromised mice
, and there is a difference.

There is one more difference. We have seen photos and data on the amounts/quality of mouse hair. We dont know anything about the number of new hair follicles formed in the “human trials” or if they were terminal.
In fact the famous article from the fifties is named “The formation of vellus hair follicles from human adult epidermis.” So there is a chance that this method only produces vellus hair and maybe not even that many of them.


#6

» They KNOW it works on human skin, they’ve already done
» » that several times in previous trials, but that skin was on the backs
» of
» » immuno-compromised mice
, and there is a difference.
»
» There is one more difference. We have seen photos and data on the
» amounts/quality of mouse hair. We dont know anything about the number of
» new hair follicles formed in the “human trials” or if they were terminal.
» In fact the famous article from the fifties is named “The formation of
» vellus hair follicles from human adult epidermis.” So there is a chance
» that this method only produces vellus hair and maybe not even that many of
» them.

If i’m not mistaken, those photos shown by follica were the human skin graft ones. I’m sure I read somewhere that it was, I could be wrong though, or it could have been bs.

I agree with benji, they have shown it works on human skin with the mouse/human skin graft experiments.
The only thing seperates the human skin graft on immuno supresed mice experiments from human skin on humans is the immune system.

The way I see it is, if it works no problem on human skin grafted onto immuno deficient mice, it should work no problem on humans with a compromized immune system (with some sort of topical immuno suppresant etc). Thats to say if the human immune system posses a problem at all, but we all know life is hardly ever that simple.


#7

» » They KNOW it works on human skin, they’ve already done
» » » that several times in previous trials, but that skin was on the backs
» » of
» » » immuno-compromised mice
, and there is a difference.
» »
» » There is one more difference. We have seen photos and data on the
» » amounts/quality of mouse hair. We dont know anything about the number
» of
» » new hair follicles formed in the “human trials” or if they were
» terminal.
» » In fact the famous article from the fifties is named “The formation of
» » vellus hair follicles from human adult epidermis.” So there is a chance
» » that this method only produces vellus hair and maybe not even that many
» of
» » them.
»
» If i’m not mistaken, those photos shown by follica were the human skin
» graft ones. I’m sure I read somewhere that it was, I could be wrong though,
» or it could have been bs.
»
» I agree with benji, they have shown it works on human skin with the
» mouse/human skin graft experiments.
» The only thing seperates the human skin graft on immuno supresed mice
» experiments from human skin on humans is the immune system.
»
» The way I see it is, if it works no problem on human skin grafted onto
» immuno deficient mice, it should work no problem on humans with a
» compromized immune system (with some sort of topical immuno suppresant
» etc). Thats to say if the human immune system posses a problem at all, but
» we all know life is hardly ever that simple.

immune system, dht, fibrosis, … its not just immune system rly.


#8

2 years before follica hits the market as the first actual cure to hairloss, count it down, 2 years before this board is obsolete.


#9

» 2 years before follica hits the market as the first actual cure to
» hairloss, count it down, 2 years before this board is obsolete.

I definitely like the optimism :slight_smile:


#10

» 2 years before follica hits the market as the first actual cure to
» hairloss, count it down, 2 years before this board is obsolete.

Sure, but unfortunately it will only work for the people that have never visited a hair loss forum, so to sum it up … we all will be here in two years.