» Hello guys and thank you all for the comments.
»
» I want to say first of all that in HDC clinic the first and most important
» thing are the future welfare of the patient, I repeated many times but I
» don´t mind to repeat the times that be necessary, because for us this is
» really the most important thing.
»
» At the HDC clinic we also denies to operate many young patients and sent
» them back to stay on meds, of course, we are an ethical clinic and this is
» what an ethical clinic will do in those cases.
»
» Below you can examine a link of one spanish forum, in this link one young
» patient, 20 years old with a nw1-2, wanted to do a procedure with HDC but
» after we examined his case we suggested him to do not proceed with surgery
» for now and stay on the treatment. The patient was not happy with the
» diagnosis so he tried with another doctor, this new doctor recommended him
» 4.000 grafts FUE.
» Case of
» Leopard - No good candidate for HDC - Other doctor recommend 4.000
» FUE
»
»
» Coming back to the case of 2.000 FUE, I will give you more details on this
» case which will help you guys to understand better the case.
»
» -This patient its 29 y.o.
» -He was on Propecia and Minoxidil for years before the procedure.
»
»
» He came for a consultation and wanted to restore the frontal area and
» first line. After the doctor examined the situation and the facts we
» proceed with the restoration and the result at 4.5 months its what you can
» examine here, beautiful in my opinion.
»
» When the patient came to the clinic for a control and we took these pics
» the patient explained to the doctor that he wanted to continue filling up
» the back of his head and we advise him that this cannot be possible for now
» as he has a lot of existing hair and will be unethical from our part to do
» this procedure.
»
»
» So what I can confirm without any doubt is that the HDC clinic follow the
» most strict protocol during the consultation and trials, in order to
» guarantee the future welfare of the patient and to provide a high quality
» of life after their procedures, and Im glad to be a part of one clinic such
» HDC, in my opinion one of the most ethical clinic in the world.
»
»
»
» I hope this will help to clarify.
»
»
» After this explanation on the case I want to make a reflection on other
» things that in my opinion are totally unacceptable and should be fixed asap
» for the future welfare of the forum and its members.
»
»
» The deliberated attacks and defamations should be controlled in order to
» guarantee the legitimacy of the same.
»
» It comes to my attention that some forum members use to jump on other
» threads to create controversy’s and to damage the credibility of legitimate
» patients and forum members, this is unacceptable and shows nothing but a
» hide agenda.
»
» For me its always a pleasure to respond to every question that a patient
» raise to me but I realize that sometimes this is a waste of time specially
» if the real intentions of the poster are hided like in the case of
» Keepitshorter.
»
» Keepitshorter has published 86 topics on this forum, 46 of them to promote
» Dr Umar and the other 40 to criticize other doctor and to burst the threads
» of other patients-clinics.
»
» This is some of the comments that Keepitshorter has made on HDC threads
» recently:
» 2.700
» GRAFTS - STRIP - FINAL RESULT - HDC
»
»
»
» 4.200
» GRAFTS - REPAIR - STRIP+FUE - HDC MEDICAL
»
»
»
»
» The totality of his comments are in the same line and are always negative
» against everybody except Dr Umar.
»
» He has made 11 posts in another forum, 4 of them are in the same first
» page, the content of all of them are a copy of the same old song,
» remember?, yes you right, Dr Umar promoted again in all these 11 posts.
»
» In yet another forum Keepitshorter has made 3 posts, all of them to
» promote Dr Umar.
»
»
» If you ask me my opinion, white in a glass bottle its milk,
»
» We the legitimate posters should take care against these dangerous posters
» with hide intentions, I know that the most veterans don´t have problems to
» see what its going on but my concern are all these newbies who can be
» involved in masquerade.
»
» It is important to remind that not every doctor out there follow the same
» strict ethical protocol such HDC and other TOP clinics in the world,
» sometimes the patient can found a very elaborated farce like undercover
» salesman’s, reps, spamming on the forums around the world, even some
» doctors has made their bussines using pics stolen from other doctors
» websites and hanged them in their websites and claim these results as
» theirs, like what happened to Hasson & Wong, Saphiro and others, its needed
» a really hard face to do that, most probably Keepitshorter will have an
» idea of what Im talking about, thanks God we have forums like this one
» where a patient can do his research and follow the right steps to achieve
» its goal.
»
»
» I would require to the administrator of the forum that an investigation of
» the facts are required and if it is established beyond any doubt that
» Keepitshorter has been promoting a doctor in a fraudulent manner and
» without following the rules of this forum community as he do not specify in
» his signature that has commercial interests, then in my opinion I think it
» should be banned for life for ensure the integrity of the forum and the
» free information, and to guarantee that the community is not corrupted by
» the vested interests of a few individuals.
»
»
» Thank you.
»
» Escar.
I can’t believe you would get so upset over this. The last picture looks awesome, I don’t think anyone will dispute that, all you have to do is to post a proper before shot so that people can compare the difference in the same context (wet hair vs wet hair / dry hair vs dry hair). Instead you take it out on those who dared to ask a few simple questions, unbelievable.
Hello, the pics of before were taken when the patient came for his procedure.
When the patient came for his procedure he wearing his hair longer, because with its diffuse pattern was more feasible to hide the shortcomings with the longest hair.
After his procedure he feels better with the hair shorter, he loves it, so he sent the pics that he was able to sent, with short hair as he wear short hair right now.
We apologize for the change of style in his hair but we understand and of course we respect as it could not be otherwise.
I want to say that at the HDC clinic the pics always are taken BEFORE and AFTER the procedure by the photographer. The doctor or assistants are not photographers, we have one member of the staff who is in charge of this, so we take the photos before the patient go into the surgery room and after the patient comes out of the surgery room, this is the standard procedure at the HDC clinic, I do not know how it is in other clinics, can only speak by ourselves.
If you want I can ask the patient if he can wet his hair and send new pics.
» Hello, the pics of before were taken when the patient came for his
» procedure.
»
» When the patient came for his procedure he wearing his hair longer,
» because with its diffuse pattern was more feasible to hide the shortcomings
» with the longest hair.
»
» After his procedure he feels better with the hair shorter, he loves it, so
» he sent the pics that he was able to sent, with short hair as he wear short
» hair right now.
»
» We apologize for the change of style in his hair but we understand and of
» course we respect as it could not be otherwise.
»
»
» I want to say that at the HDC clinic the pics always are taken BEFORE and
» AFTER the procedure by the photographer. The doctor or assistants are not
» photographers, we have one member of the staff who is in charge of this, so
» we take the photos before the patient go into the surgery room and after
» the patient comes out of the surgery room, this is the standard procedure
» at the HDC clinic, I do not know how it is in other clinics, can only speak
» by ourselves.
»
» If you want I can ask the patient if he can wet his hair and send new
» pics.
»
» Thank you,
»
» Escar.
Okay, the change of style I understand it’s beyond anyone’s control. Perhaps next time just make sure a wet before as well as a dry before is taken before you start operating on the patient, these are little steps that can go a long way defending your work when people start asking questions. Just my 2 cents.
» Okay, the change of style I understand it’s beyond anyone’s control.
» Perhaps next time just make sure a wet before as well as a dry before is
» taken before you start operating on the patient, these are little steps
» that can go a long way defending your work when people start asking
» questions. Just my 2 cents.
Ok, no problem, I will make sure that we include these shots also, for us every opinion its very important and help us to improve.
» »» “I think the ones with staff and are chains…that a
» specific
» » doc does not do the work. will be more likely to not care
» »
» » but even reputable clinics with high caliber docs, i am sure sometimes
» try
» » to steer the patient in a certain direction and the patient
» » insists…and the doc says, ok we warned him and he would not
» listen,
» » he is going into this with open eyes fully aware of the risks, we
» cannot
» » force our patients to adhere to our wishes”
»
» I agree. Speaking of sales pressure and no ethics, I went before I
» decided for more HT surgery to check into Hair Club For Men. I heard the
» stories, but I wanted to see first hand.
»
» Everything you hear is true. In my case, there was this very attractive
» young lady doing my “analysis.” She was very persistent and tried to get
» me to make my decison to go foward with it right then and there. I suppose
» they hire good looking women to make us guys feel bad about our situations,
» and then having an attractive female in our faces would encourage us more
» to go foward with it (thinking with a full head of hair maybe we would get
» more attention from them)
»
» On a side note a few days after I visited her I emailed her to thank her
» for her time. I informed her that even though it was going to cost me 4
» times as much I had decided to pursue Dr. Umar in Southern California to
» have more hair transplant work performed on me.
»
» I could only imagine her thinking, “Damm there went my commission on
» him!”
»
» I wish I still had her email, lol, as I would love to send her my pictures
» of my success with Dr. Umar all along her knowing I could more than afford
» her sales pitch!
»
» http://rbcdsu.blogspot.com/2008_02_17_archive.html
same same same experience here with Hair Club. I almost went with them until I heard about the maintenance contract that they want you to sign. You know what s funny is that they are not cheap at all, the hair system, the maintenance and products can easily cost several thousands a year. Imagine if you use them for 5 years that 's more expensive than hair transplants!
» » »» “I think the ones with staff and are chains…that a
» » specific
» » » doc does not do the work. will be more likely to not care
» » »
» » » but even reputable clinics with high caliber docs, i am sure
» sometimes
» » try
» » » to steer the patient in a certain direction and the patient
» » » insists…and the doc says, ok we warned him and he would not
» » listen,
» » » he is going into this with open eyes fully aware of the risks, we
» » cannot
» » » force our patients to adhere to our wishes”
» »
» » I agree. Speaking of sales pressure and no ethics, I went before I
» » decided for more HT surgery to check into Hair Club For Men. I heard
» the
» » stories, but I wanted to see first hand.
» »
» » Everything you hear is true. In my case, there was this very
» attractive
» » young lady doing my “analysis.” She was very persistent and tried to
» get
» » me to make my decison to go foward with it right then and there. I
» suppose
» » they hire good looking women to make us guys feel bad about our
» situations,
» » and then having an attractive female in our faces would encourage us
» more
» » to go foward with it (thinking with a full head of hair maybe we would
» get
» » more attention from them)
» »
» » On a side note a few days after I visited her I emailed her to thank
» her
» » for her time. I informed her that even though it was going to cost me
» 4
» » times as much I had decided to pursue Dr. Umar in Southern California
» to
» » have more hair transplant work performed on me.
» »
» » I could only imagine her thinking, “Damm there went my commission on
» » him!”
» »
» » I wish I still had her email, lol, as I would love to send her my
» pictures
» » of my success with Dr. Umar all along her knowing I could more than
» afford
» » her sales pitch!
» »
» » http://rbcdsu.blogspot.com/2008_02_17_archive.html
»
» same same same experience here with Hair Club. I almost went with them
» until I heard about the maintenance contract that they want you to sign.
» You know what s funny is that they are not cheap at all, the hair system,
» the maintenance and products can easily cost several thousands a year.
» Imagine if you use them for 5 years that 's more expensive than hair
» transplants!
Agreed! Hair club for men is BS unless it’s just someone who is so bald there is no other way!
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